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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Bread crumbs That's what poor Willy is living on at the moment, Denis. When are we gonna get a nice slice of cheese? That's what we want to know! :) |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
X Dont complain Tim. You always receive the extra point for the loss :P |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
X And clearly I'm using the wrong ones for my team! |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
X Come back Rob. Now Tim uses the clubs without a manager to see how different tactics work on different teams:D |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
what i tried to say... Was ask me again after the Conference play is over lol. Although the blank message could have been me explaining everything I know about managing. You should have a sign in and passwoerd for ex managers.... |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Cheeky Rob I haven't changed the LSD password, since they haven't got a new manager yet, so Rob is still hopping on to see how they're going, and adding the odd comment. Okay, Robin is adding the ODD comment, but Rob's comments are odd. Damn, I think I've confused myself. :P |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
LSD Blog Entry Will they get participation bonus for that? It's a novel approach to submit their blog in invisible ink :-) |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 27 August. The following teams receive 10k: ASM, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, RAT, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Aggression Will be interested to see what affect Steve's aggressive play makes to HOB. Already the best team in the league it could turn out to cost them as many points as it makes them. Weirdly i actually hope HOB go onto to win the alpha trophy this year as he has deserved it each of the last 2 seasons and probably more. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Our mothers taught us that if you can't play nice, don't play anything at all. No, wait...If you can't say anything, don't play nice...no, that's not it...If you can't play anything at all, say something nice and maybe someone will let you play. Oh, well. You can't roller skate in a buffalo herd. |
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![]() Real Ale Teesside Simon Rowlinson |
Everbody Hurts I'd lean away from an aggressive lineup due to the EL expenditure foremost. I don't like resting players! |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Aggressive HOB normally play normal all the time - and end up in the middle of the DP table. There are cash rewards of 50k for the dirtiest team and dirtiest player and so I thought about having half a go for those. Whether it's worth the extra shots compared to giving up penalties (2 against GM) and losing players to suspensions is anyone's guess. |
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![]() Real Ale Teesside Simon Rowlinson |
Finesse? Just been flicking through the stats so far this season after I saw I had 5 yellow cards from the 3 games played when I haven't played anything above 'normal' & that the 20 DPs from those cards places us a joint 4th 'dirtiest' team in the league. So who was top of the DP list? DVV are 3rd and CUB 2nd with 28 DPs, but leading the pack are HOB with 32 DPs! I shouldn't be surprised I suppose, a good manager knows when his team need to play hard to get that extra % out of their players, so the question is do we chance our own arm? or is the possibility of that arm being spotted by the ref too great? |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Good News, Bad News The good news is I've got a new computer. The bad news is I have to transfer everything over. The good news is that everything appears to be working. The bad news is I won't know for sure until I've run the next session. :P |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Triple 1 Bad numbers. Bad team. Not so bad numbers. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
The Mighty KM I am not surprised to hear that HOB played so many agreesive players against KM. The commish pointed out that KM are the only team whose top eleven has not degraded. Clearly they are unstoppable and must be treated with respect. Next match SAT is playing everyone agrresive! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
How bad did he want it? HOB over KM was a foregone conclusion. Tops in the league vs. 3rd to worst by SL. We can't come close to matching their shooters or GK. So why exactly did Steve feel the need to come out with 8 guys on aggressive? Playing for the bonus point and Captain's Bonus? Just because he could? Thought he'd blow some EL for fun and have to play a tad weaker vs. ODD? 8 guys on aggressive. I guess we should be honored that we are worthy of such strength! Better than losing 3-0 after HOB comes out with 8 guys on passive. Or was that the intent and Steve just went the wrong way on the aggression dropdown list by mistake? |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Stupid Cat humor.... Text here. Use HTML tags to format. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Cardiac Arrest Just about had to call an ambulance from the shock - all my WRR results were fair by the numbers! |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 13 August. The following teams receive 10k: ASM, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, RAT, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. What was the question? Doesn't matter. I still don't even understand the answer! |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Finesse My analysis of finesse is that it is a killer tactic if you are stronger in the 3 areas (DF, MF & FW) than your opponent, but if you're stronger in all 3 than your opponent, it doesn't really matter what you play. At that point I stopped investigating. The only reason it is still there is because I haven't commented it out. Which doesn't answer your question at all. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
re: lineup warning I've actually done this before on Al Sellers' Olmec site (can't remember exactly which league). |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Lineup Warning! For all managers who use the online entry to do your lineups, please be aware of the following error that can be made: When doing a substitution, be careful about what position you select for the sub to enter at. For example, typically you input something along the lines of "T=45,S2,DF" as your entry orders. However, becuase the last dropdown box also includes aggressiveness (p,n,a) problems can arise. You can input "T=45,S2,p" and the program will accept it. Even though the 'p,n,a' are supposed to go along with the "c" command instead of the sub commands, there is not a "can't do that" error that comes up. You can sub in a player at the program will place him where you direct, such as at position "p" which doesn't exist. The player will show minutes played, however he will not contribute any SL to area totals. It is unknown if a 'non-playing' player could be injured or gather DP as those are team-wide checks, though it is highly unlikely that the player would ever get a shot as those are area-specific allocations. This could also create havoc with mandatory positioning such as 1 GK, 2 DF, 2 MF, 1 FW, etc. or your SL with regard to 2:1 rules. In short, when subbing a player in, make sure that he's actually going to a position and not subbing into "p" or another aggression that costs your team SL. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Finesse As the only league to play this tactic I thought I'd have a look at one game, or rather part of one, and see how well we'd have dome playing finesse. And the answer is not very; GP is way down though DEF is up a little but we lose 20 on OFF. The OFF and DEF bonus relies on DF, MF, FW and OTF but as GP really needs a big SW this takes a lot from DF area total, although in the game I looked at we had a decent DEF bonus for the better MF and we got the SW vs L bonus. Playing without a SW just kills GP too much. To play Finesse it seems to me you need a big SW and hope they play L or E tactic, a big OTF advantage and to mark those L forwards. One question for Tim: the bonus refers to DF, MF and FW area values. Are these the effective SL used after marking has been applied but before the tactic multipliers are used? |
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![]() Real Ale Teesside Simon Rowlinson |
Rookie Timings Cheers Kevin, I also found out last night that when you click on Lineups and then CONTINUE it brings up the squad and how long each player has played this season. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Rookies Rookie minutes carry over. They do not appear as all stats on the team pages are reset for conference play. You need to remember how much they've played yourself or check the match reports for matches 1-3 to remind yourself if you forget. Once the player hits 360 minutes total then the +2 to SL will apply at the end of that match (but before the TP gets applied if you are also training that match. Seasoning gets processed first). |
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![]() Real Ale Teesside Simon Rowlinson |
Rookie question So can I ask for clarification over whether rookie minutes are carried over or not from the Powerball? Kevin said they did in his blog along with DP (which i can see against my team) but I can't see minutes against the players. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Thanks, Tim Didn't mean to create extra work for you as the season starts off, Tim. Thanks for being so responsive though! Of course, this still won't help KM win any MoM awards this season, but at least for a few days we're on par with everyone else again. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: MoM Okay, I've cheated and manually reset the MoM field to zero. To effect the change to MoM only applying to the competition being played, I would have to create 3 MoM fields and make sure the update wrote to the correct field. I will probably get around to it sometime. :P |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: NMR I've reimbursed SAT with 150k to cover the missed free coaching slots. I find it intensely frustrating when a screw-up can be attributed to me, no less than you guys do when it happens. My apologies to Jon. I hadn't cleared last season's orders before people started submitting orders for this season. Then I didn't know who had current orders without checking the date. So I removed all the orders and put back all the ones with current dates. I don't know why Jon's didn't get put back, but that's what happened. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: NMR & Stats Yes, I did do some work that affected the stored lineups, Jon. I had saved and restored the lineups, but I do remember you putting them in early. I'll work out something appropriate. I agree that MoM shouldn't carry over. On the other hand, it means I have to dig into the software again. I'll put it on the list. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Stats Yeh i can understand why the all carry over except for MOM. It seems like it should be the same as saves and goals, either they all carry over or none of them carry over. not overly fussed which one it is as there is a case to carry and to not carry but seems unfair that a player can win player of season award with help from OP matches but not the golden boot. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Stats for Steven The Origin Powerball is kind of like a Cup tourney. Just like goals in the FA Cup or Champion's League don't count toward the Golden Boot in the EPL, goals, saves, minutes, etc. do not carry over. However, Man of Match awards, Captain's Bonus points, points used, minutes of rookies toward seasoning, and DP all carry over.
If you wanted to make a case that goals and saves should carry over, you are welcome to give it a whirl. Otherwise, I'd actually go the other direction and advocate for removing the MoM carry over. If goals, saves, etc. don't count, then the players that did those in the OP shouldn't get the leg up on bringing in post-season award money for the team. Given that some teams use the OP for rookie seasoning while others squander EL and enter the league in rough shape for their T11, the discrepancy between teams is too great to call it a level playing field. I can see DP, minutes for seasoning, and points used (and Captain's Bonus, as it is a PU situation) all carrying over. Morale is also easy to see the impact as the OP can lift or dampen spirits heading into the league opener. However, the MoM doesn't fall into line with any of that. If it's a league award for an individual player, it should be based on league play, right? |
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![]() Real Ale Teesside Simon Rowlinson |
REAL ALE I'm rather happy today (the mini beer festival at the pub next to work had nothing to do with it...) Real Ale Teesside finished top of group 1! We had the expected loss to HOB first game back but two wins in the other games meant we take the title (if there is one, and if not why not!?) on goal difference. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Stats Is there any reason why some stats from the OP count (MOM for instance) but goals and other stats don't? Jintau would already be well on the way to top scorer crown if they did. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
NMR I am disappointed to see that my team went NMR during the origin powerball. As mentioned in my press release I did submit my orders nice and early. They are saved on my PC and when I entered them in I did check them on the site. I guess in those three weeks some work was done on the site? Shame as I lost the chance to give game time to my rookies and lost three matches worth of coaching/training. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Another start Not bad... trying new things, but have no team for it, so... |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 30 July. The following teams receive 10k: ASM, DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. New season. Same cats. No Rob Anderson to kick around anymore. There goes the "Red Wings Suck" slogan for our team this year. Have to come up with something better. "Broncos, Cornhuskers and Braves Suck!" There. That ought to put Kevin in his place. How's that for a team motto? Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Umbrella Rage According to my numbers KM starts this season with the same T11 avg. as last season. But it is much punchier to write "everyone is down" than "everyone is down except KM who are on the same numbers". Anyway, I've heard that waving umbrellas around is dangerous and you can end up putting your own eye out. Not that I'd ever accuse you of being one-eyed. That's all I've got. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Umbrage And I should also point out that we at KM take offense at the commish's insinuations on the front of the web page that we are not as good as we started out last season! Our average SL is 11.3 (249 SL/22 players) vs. 9.68 (242 SL/25 players) last season pre-OP. Our T11 is up from 17.27 to 18.18, and our T17 is up from 14.24 to 14.65. Plus, we finally have a Gk over SL 20. So of course we'll be taking out said offended anger upon Willy the Rat (not to be confused with Team RAT) when we face them in the near future. Not that we'd really need much of a reason to T11 anyway. It's just nice to have a pretense of one! ;-) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
KM vote on OTF What? Was my answer not perfectly clear in the numbers below, Tim? I'm going with: leave it as is for now, and see how the SL shakes out after this season with regard to OTF impact vs. cost. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
OP groups Germany in the UK group. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: OTF What Kevin said. So is that for or against? And did I make what appears in retrospect to be an error moving OTF to %? 'Cause if it is, it can always be undone. I'm not leaping to make wild changes here. Just keeping an eye on an area that may or may not become a problem. Again. :) |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
GER bonus 50k each paid to GER for logo & Behind the Name. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
CP/TP/OTF For all costs, you can think of it as (Current SL+1) for the number, or think of it as (New SL) instead. Whichever is easier for you. The program uses the current+1 because the cost is applied before the SL is raised.
CP cost: (SL+1)*2 As for the OTF discussion, I think as SL's go down then the OTF will become less valuable, not more valuable. OTF was shifted in FLATNZ from adding the number itself (i.e. OTF of 8 adds 8 to the DEF & OFF for the match) to a percentage multiplier (i.e. OTF of 8 adds 8% of whatever the current DEF & OFF are to the totals). As the T11's go down, and the area totals go down, the OTF contribution goes down. Right now, the current average T11 offense in the league to start this season weighs in at just under 116. Defense is 104. Assuming a team uses the Normal tactic, an OTF of 7 would add 7 to the defense and 8 to the offense, 15 total. An OTF of 10 would add 10 to the defense and 12 to the offense, 22 total. So raising the OTF from 7 to 10 on average will net the team 7 more area points per match. That will cost 324k to raise the OTF from 7 to 10. If the cash was spent on a player instead, you could raise your third rookie from 0/4 (after seasoning) to 0/11. That would cost 168k + 175k for the extra TP slots, 343k total. That would give you 7 more SL per match. However, depending on tactic choice and position that SL could net slightly more or less area points, and it would only be for 2 out of every 3 matches. Depending on the age and SL of the player you wanted to put the money toward instead, you would net between 4 and 7 SL more for the money you would spend on OTF. So all that goes to say that right now the OTF is worth the money in the long run because it can be used in every match (unless you're a Longball or Early Cross team and ignore it) and comes out slightly better on area total additions at this time. However, that first considers T11 strength, and not average strength which is of necessity lower due to subs and players needing a rest. It also can't predict how much the T11 strength will drop as the seasons progress. Right now, it's about right. By next season or season 18, it will definitely merit revisiting. And just so you know what the total cost difference would be for a team maintaining 10 OTF each season, it currently costs 324k to go from 7 to 10 OTF each year. If dropped to a multiplier of 10 instead of 12, it would cost 270k. So we're looking at teams that use OTF constantly and maintain it at 10 saving 54k. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Costs I think you should leave it where it is, as the average SL of the league comes down (as you have noted in preseason commissioner talk) then OTF will become more useful, right now it might be slightly expensive but this time next season i think it will be spot on. How exactly are the CP/TP values worked out, something along the lines of 2*SL value and 3*SL value rings a bell but think ill need to budget more precisely this season so want to get it right. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
OTF Cost I would personally leave it as it is. Not overly fussed either way though as 2k isn't a huge deal. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Reduction in OTF cost? I've been thinking about reducing the OTF cost from 12k to 10k. The reason being that the influence of OTF seems to me to be less than the same money put into players. There should be a rough balance. As a long term OTF user, it seems the cost is a little high for the benefit. Thoughts? (If we decide it's a go-er, I'll implement it before the matches start.) |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Team Setup Done Team setup for the new season has been processed for: AA(now RAT), CUB, DVV, GM, KM, ODD, OLY, PEX, SAT & WRR. You can change your mind up until the deadline. :) |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
RAT logo & BTH RAT receive 100k for logo and Behind the Name (which will show when the Team History updates with this season). |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Fond & Sorrowful Farewell Rob has informed me that he won't be able to continue managing LSD. Rob joined FLATNZ in the very first season, and he's in the FLATNZ Hall of Fame, so you know what a big hole he's going to leave. Thanks for all the seasons, Rob, and you'll be missed! All the best for the real life. :) |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
They say ... that imitation is the highest form of flattery. :) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
More Rats! Simon makes his mark on the old Alcoholics team with a rename to better suit the new manager. But really. RAT?!? Perhaps he hopes to pick up on Willy's luck (last season excepted). Or maybe this is to confuse the Cats at MLB about whom they need to be chasing after. Then again... two Rats for two cats. If the internal catfighting at MLB goes away because now there is enough prey for both of the managerial tandem, this could be very, very bad for the rest of us. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Trade Offering 0/5 SL, any position. I need a higher SL player and i can offer cash to cover the deal. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Season 16 Draft Points1. DVV 5,3,1 2. HOB 6,3,1 3. AA 6,3,1 4. OLY 7,3,1 5. LSD 7,3,1 6. WRR 7,3,1 7. ODD 8,3,1 8. SAT 8,3,1 9. GM 8,4,2 10. MLB 8,4,2 11. SCO 9,4,2 12. CUB 9,4,2 13. KM 9,4,2 14. ASM 10,4,2 15. PEX 10,4,2 16. TUC 11,4,2 |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Heads High Indeed! Italy ranked 5th, Paraguay 31, Slovakia 34. New Zealand ranked... 78th! Looking forward to the post WC update. Very proud of the team for their efforts. When they tried to speed it up and attack they wobbled a bit, but some of them showed they could very much foot it on the world stage. And Mark Paston! Him and the Nigerian keeper should be flooded with offers! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Congrats to NZ ... on their unbeaten run in the World Cup. I know they would have wanted a win and to advance to the round of 16, however three draws against quality sides from Europe and South America is a great showing to build off of in the coming seasons. Hope they're holding their heads high. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Fairytale Continues Draw with Slovakia was amazing! Draw with Italy defies belief! What a beautiful job! What can we do against Paraguay? Over in the real world of FLATNZ, I'm intending to begin set up for the new season on Friday. Need a manager for ASM, so if you've got a candidate, let me know. |
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Can't believe Spain lost. That's like HOB not winning the Cup....Oh wait a minute.... |
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NZ goes wild! 3 minutes into injury time and NZ scores the equaliser! I confess that I yelled very loudly. :) |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
World Cup Looking forward to Friday when we will beat USA :D |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Cupdate Well done to USA. Good result for them. Finishing for England somewhat poor. Can I get a "Heske"? Argentina looked very good against Nigeria, who aren't slouches, and the Nigerian keeper has definitely got my vote for the Golden Gloves (if they did that) so far. Nice number on Greece by South Korea. Aussie against German just looked completely out of their depth. From my view it looked like 1)they were just too slow, and 2)they were targeting the man instead of the ball. Once the ref got fed up with dishing out yellows and pulled the red (for what I wouldn't have called a red card offense, except it coming on a long line of such challenges, and about the 3rd such from that player in as many minutes), Australia actually improved. They started concentrating on playing the play, they picked up their energy, and if they'd played like that from the beginning, they might have had a decent game. The good news is that NZ doesn't have to worry about looking bad after Aussie did such a fine job at it. Germany's structure looked very impressive, but their finishing was much like England's. They won by 4-0, but it should have been more like 8. Of everyone I've seen so far, Argentina looking best IMO. |
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Bit lucky there If I didnt know better I would have thought that was Steve Turner in goal. |
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it's pretty quiet in here. so just let me say.... USA! USA! USA! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
S'Alright Willy the Rat missed the playoffs, and at least his boss got the "two" right of the homonyms, so no sense in nit-picking now and kicking a rat while he's down. Come OP time again... |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
To -> Too Twice in one day. Kevin will be on my case! |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Question Sorry, Rob. Keep meaning to respond to this. I like that you can still make a 30+ SL player. And I like that making one is now a serious decision between that or having 2 x 25 SL players. Both paths are going to result in similar, er, results, but now I have to decide whether I'm going to have 3 x 30SL in my team, or 6 x 25? Roughly. It's not just the 5SL difference, it's the cost of getting there + the cost of staying there. We're talking impact over 2 or 3 seasons. The real agony of the decision is that in one off matches you can't beat having those big players for the saves and the shots, but will it be enough? (Rubs hands together and chuckles wickedly.) 6 seasons is a full cycle, so I'm not to keen to fiddle with anything else in the pay and coaching area for at least another season or two (1/2 to 2/3 through cycle). Looks to me like its working pretty well so far. |
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Team of the Week I forgot to reset the Team of the Week before running the session, so, um, that's why there's a KM & WRR player on it. |
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Season 15 Awards Evening
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Mid-Season Bonus Due to being far to lazy to go back and check the dates to determine who posted for Mid-Season, and the potential for that to screw up the payments for the first post-conference session, the commissioner has decided to give everyone 50k and tell them to shut up and go away. He does not expect anyone will be calling him up to give it back. |
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Blog Participation Bonus 21 May. The following teams receive 10k: AA, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Money Good to see we have a grand total of 0k. This team is aging and on a big time downward spiral. Maybe not a bad thing we are in beta as its prob our last chance of winning something for a long time. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. SupperBowlSupperBowlSupperBowlSupperBowl....the cats pretty much have a one track mind right now. We're so sleep deprived, our managerial tactics are off the charts from our regular participation. Oh, wait, that's a good thing. Go Blues. Red Things bad. Except for throwing octopi on the ice. MMMMMmmmmmmm....must start that at MLB games. Mmmmmm...octopus. Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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Mid-field... A quick browse of everyone's squads shows a distinct lack of 'proper' midfielders, with MLB's 3 SL10+ the largest quotient. Most managers prefer their MA's (WRR have 5!) but it will be interesting to see how Kevin's Marauding UT's affect their squads performance next season. |
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Re: Mid-season money I'm flipping a coin as to whether to do anything about it. At present it is in the air. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Mid-season Money I thought that was a deliberate omission because what we did post wasn't worth the bonus. Or something like that. Maybe Willy was just too tipsy from celebrating the Alpha berth and misplaced the league checkbook again... |
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Re: HOB accounting You are quite correct, Steve. I failed to pay anyone press money for mid-season. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
HOB accounting I thought I'd post my finances for this year, for any new managers that join or the less experienced ones here. Those who've been here at least the last two seasons will remember that last season I spent an obscene amount due to the new rules. This season is indicative of how it'll be at HOB from now on. This is to the end of the regular season. Start Cash - 444k Gate money - 2586k (31 games average of 83.42k per game)
Coaching (CP) - 1868k (33 slots on 5 players)
Current cash - 174k I plan to spend 50k on CP and 54k on TP in the first play-off game and expect 75k gate money for it, and another 50k press. There's also 200k for the Golden Boot and Golden Gloves which leaves me with 395k. Tim says it's 650k press for a season and that extra 50k would mean I finish the season with almost the exact same amount I started with. I don't know if there's press post finals or Tim missed one or I've made an error somewhere. With a less successful season there's a lot of places to lose cash - 100k on gate money, 150k from Origin Powerball, 100k for not doing well in the Conference, 200k awards night, 60k Shield defences, all of which effectively means a player misses out on coaching completely. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
650k The reason I said 600k was that I've picked up 530k so far (I lost out 20k one session) and there's one more award to go. That's unless I've miscalculated 50k too much for gate money, extra slots or CP/TP usage. |
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Question... If the goal was to limit the 30+ players and increase the depth on teams, why couldn't we just limit the Points used per player to 8 rather than 10? |
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Its over! Wings lost 4 games to 1 despite outscoring the Sharks 17-15. Howard got valuable experience in net, Lidstrom will likely re-sign (as opposed to resign)instead of retirement. Bring on next season! |
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Schedule Up Schedule is up, but I realised that because there is no schedule for match 33 (since we don't know who is going to be playing), you won't be able to use the online creator to do a match 33 lineup. Hopefully you can all use LUFC and upload. If not, you will have to use some other match number and let me know what it is. Blog & team press payment is 12 sessions + mid-season, so it is still 13 * 50 = 650k. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Yes 600k would have bought you 12 CP but it's the extra 25k assuming you're using extra slots that makes it 75k. So 600k would only have bought you 8 CP. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
600k Is it just me getting older, or does 600k not seem like it goes as far as it used to... Or both? |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
600k That's how much press money could have been earned this season (last season it was 650k). So what is 600k worth? Well assuming you're using extra slots at 25k a time you could do one of the following: 1. Coach a player from SL from 19 to 27 or 23 to 30. |
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Blog & Team Press Yes. One more payment for blog and team press. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Playoff bonus cash? It's probably been answered a million times before, but I have the memory of a goldfish. Can teams earn Blog/Press money for the playoff games? I figure some people may want to post predictions or comment on how they did this season. Anyways, thanks to Tim for all the hard work in running the league. It's been loadsa fun. Good luck to everyone who is still playing for the titles. |
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Blog Participation Bonus 7 May. The following teams receive 10k: AA, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Effect? Not sure if I answered your comment about marking the MF clearly enough (since my answer was before your comment). The DF will not mark until the MF moves to a FW/WG position. So you lose nothing by specifying the marking if they stay at MF. Nothing will happen. DF will play at full SL and so will MF. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Marking stuff If a FW marks a GK, aren't they offside? Now he wants to talk about it. ;) Marking MFs doesn't tend to happen. Marking MAs does, but usually against the expectation that they'll move forward and with the willingness to sacrifice the DEF if they don't. But as the MF heavier tactics require more shots to score, making MFs as appealing to mark as FWs cripples those tactics. I think the new coaching system makes the MF/OTF combo more expensive to build in terms of scoring chances than WG/FW, so "MFs marking affecting all their contribution" would hand all the advantage back to the L boys. As a short term solution, the nothing happening either way seems a reasonable compromise. The main reason to make a change now, rather than see out the season, is that no-one is going to turn down a significant advantage once it has been made apparent to them. (The plus of the MF/OTF combo is that it also concedes less goals. At least, I think so.) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Can you mark the GK? Forget about marking midfielders, can you mark goalkeepers? I remember you could in the classic game Championship Manager and it would result in your forward getting more chances (as he would stay upfield.) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Stuff Commenting out marking MF - I know what you mean, Tim, but does this mean that you can't mark MF players at all now? Seems unfair at this stage when it's been allowed all season and could be partly the reason Shooter isn't top of the Golden Boot. Too late to affect my orders though where I could be marking a certain MF player for no reason. Steve, if you use LUFC there's an option to CP OTF. it costs 12 times the new value. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
OTF How do you increase OTF here. How much does it cost? |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Beta Playoffs GM seem to be secured in the playoffs now after a couple of good weeks recently. Truth be told im a bit dissapointed we are not having a crack at the alpha playoffs again but we will be back. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Looking forward to a fresh start Can't wait for final matches tomorrow. First, to see if we can net another win or two to close out on a high note. Second, because then the season is done for us. While the playoffs will be going on for half the teams, at KM we'll be able to get back to the spreadsheets and start figuring out the CP/TP plans for next season. Nothing a good spreadsheet and a cold Coke to finish off the day on a high note! Best of luck to the underdogs this session as the playoff hopefuls are out in droves. To all those playing spoiler, "Game On!" |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: Marking MFs I have commented out marking MFs. If you mark an MF it will only apply if they change position to FW (or WG). |
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Re: The 2nd Thing From an initial look, it appears that markingSL is simply made effectiveSL, meaning that all contributions of that player are reduced. This has no effect on the FWs, as they only contribute to OFF, nor on the WGs, for the same reason, so nothing needs to be done there. It should not, however, be the case for MFs. I'm pondering what the fairest short-term solution may be. It will require some significant work to make MF marking affect OFF only, but I could comment out MF marking altogether for the rest of the season. Thoughts, please. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
The 2nd Thing ...was news to me. AFAIK, marking only affects OFF (well, except for the DF, obviously). I'll check the software at some point. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Two things I learned today Morale has no effect on OFF and DEF. In other Olmec leagues a morale of .5 would add 5 to OFF and DEF. Despite the rules stating that marking a MF doesn't affect his DEF contribution, Flatnz does follow the other leagues in this respect. This means that my tactic of playing Shooter in midfield where he only lost 0.75 SL per SL of marking player doesn't work as he loses all 1.25 |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
re: bye bye farewell For a minute there, Mike, I thought you were quitting Flatnz. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Bye bye, farewell Season is over for PEX. See you next season (after the next two matches, obviously). |
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...the other playoffs Red Wings advance to round 2 with a 6-1 victory in game seven against Phoenix. I underestimated the Coyotes. GK Bryzgalov stole game 6 and their captain, Shane Doan was a beast (hurt in game 3 though). Detroit looked unbeatable in game 7 and yet there in lies the rub. They can seemingly turn it on and look world class but far too often they seem to mail in the effort. Next up is the number one seed in the Western Conference, the San Jose Sharks. Starts Thursday. It worked last time so I'm sticking to it again: Wings in 6. |
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Playoffs EL does not reset and suspensions do carry over. Be careful. |
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Play-off Queries With an 8 point gap from 5th place it's looking likely AA will qualify for the play-offs, so without playing a weakened side in the last 2 matches (I want to finish 2nd!) I have a couple of questions about going into the play-offs: a)does EL get reset? b)do suspensions carry over? - I have a forward on 4 yellows, another one in the next 2 games would take him to 20 DPs would he miss the first play-off match? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Last Call I'm really looking forward to this last session. Half of Alpha is gunning for just one spot. Beta's last spot is suddenly very tenuous as well. And we can T11 without worrying about injuries or saving EL for future matches. Good times all around. So we'll see if we can get Road Runner one more Captain's bonus point this season before he passes the badge on to someone else. TUC is up first, at home. Let's get to it then! |
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Blog Participation Bonus 23 April. The following teams receive 10k: AA, DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
I blame it... ...on sleep deprivation. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
and also according to the Shield pages, AA haven't held the Shield since season 11... |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
My Bad You're all correct. I forgot it passed through Rob's hands on the way to Steve. It is indeed open to all, and AA correctly tagged their chance of taking it back. |
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Shield... See I was thinking the same thing. Since we took it (and lost it) its open season on it. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Who will have the Shield next season? (I typed this up a few days ago but not sure how valid it is after Tim's FYI - however I'm not sure when AA last held the Shield anyway...I always thought you couldn't win it back off the team you lost it to until everyone else has had a chance but if it changes hands again then it's open season. We have 2 Shield defences this session - if we hold it both times then the last game is against ODD and would be a Shield defence (?). So that's us or ODD If we lose it in the 1st game, against AA, then they have a defence against LSD - win that and it's either AA or SAT after the final session. Lose to LSD and it can go to DVV who could lose it to AA who could lose it to SAT. If LSD hold against DVV then they could lose it to WRR. And if we lose it in the 3rd game, against SAT then it's either them or LSD that get to take it into the next season. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Grid girls Each team should have their own grid girl/cheerleader with plenty of pictures on site ;) |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Grid Girls :D The real problem with the grid girls is that they keep getting younger! I could be their father! Doesn't that just take all the thrill out of the encounter? |
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Couldn't find Willy.... But here's a quote about Tim. "She said: "It was just a bit of a fun," and that most of the men were well behaved. The few "creepy men" didn't bother her as much as having to get up early." |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Why Willy went to watch... Tim talks about the cars. No doubt because he's married and knows where the meal ticket comes from. Willy on the other hand... Grid Girls at the Hamilton 400 Search the photos to find Willy and win a prize! |
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re: Hamilton 400 In a related note...apparently the Dragon's success are starting to be noticed. Found out today their is a Lake Superior Dragon Boat Festival. (google it if interested in attending) I'll post pictures on FB after I attend. (you'd think I'd get the invitation to be Grand Marshal or something for the parade!?! Maybe it was lost in the mail). |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Hamilton 400 Big international street race in town this weekend. Aussie's V8 Supercars comes to town. NASCAR on a street circuit. Boogedee, boogedee, boogedee! I'm waiting to find out whether I've scored a complementary ticket or not. I'm either watching it at home or in the stands. |
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MLB -ve bank resolved After blankly staring at the screen off and on, and not seeing any problem in the way the software checked that we have enough money to TP/CP, I suddenly realised where the issue might lie while I was doing the dishes last night. Checked this morning, and bingo. Process is OTF, TP, CP, extra training slots. Because the TP & OTF/CP have already processed, extra training slots does not care what the bank balance is. So you can't go negative with OTF, TP & CP, but you can when the extra training slots are paid for. In MLB's case, bank of 298k - 123k TP - 158k CP = 17k. Bank positive. No problem. Everything processed. However, when total cost of extra slots applied, 17k - 75k = -58k. So the software is checking that you've got enough money for your coaching. What we didn't realise is that we have an overdraft to the tune of the number of extra slots coached. I may change that in the future, but certainly not for the rest of this season. |
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NHL playoff update Wings not only made the playoffs but they streaked to a 5th place finish (top 8 in each conference make it). They play Phoenix which has been a cinderella story all year. Unlike the Disney story though, this one ends badly for the Coyotes as Detroit is too strong, too deep and too battle hardened for them. If the best of 7 goes 6 I'll be amazed. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
No Cash This league is a not-an-extra-money league. Low revenue at the gates (popular tickets, I presume). And low salaries for journalists. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Cash crisis Is there a cash crisis? I can´t see any :D |
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Re: Cash Crisis Teams that can only put 10 points into 3 age 0-1 players and 3 age 2+ players, with OTF, or 1 more without, should be closer to the norm. |
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Re: The Cash Crisis Just to remove a little more of the curtain covering the commissioner's evil plans; it is my expectation that within 2 seasons players over 30 SL will be extremely rare beasts (only seen at the expense of other players), players between 28-30 will be considered superstars, and players from 25-27 will be high end players. The software was originally designed around teams having ~4 players 25+ SL as a max, and is most responsive from mid-teens to mid-twenties. The cash crisis, then, is only in terms of managers trying to maintain team strengths that were possible under the previous system. As the current superstars age out, I expect top team total SLs to drop. >:-) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
The Cash Crisis This is only the second season were cash is used instead of CP/TP right? With so many people having financial problems what will happen if in a few seasons time everyone is bankrupt? Will CP/TP return? |
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Shield defence It's ok Tim he's only going to have for one game... |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Cash I had the 100k all ready, Denis, but you failed to lose the match. I'm not paying you to NOT lose! |
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Blog Participation Bonus 9 April. The following teams receive 10k: AA, DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. I'll be honest. I've read the past posts and STILL have no idea what anyone is talking about. Sheesh. Look at me. I've become the Jay Patrick Wilkins of FLATNZ! I understand that I am out of money. Clyde & Calvin are considering going out to push catnip on the street corner this afternoon. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Cash We also need a cash boost, so Tim im still waiting for the refund on my fines :D |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Lets see if I can sum this up. Cats indicted on embezzlement charges. League Commissioner apparently involved. Investigation continues. More at Eleven. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
MLB cash Nice catch on the Captain's Bonus, Tim. Sorry I neglected to check that. Too used to MLB getting draws or scraping out narrow one-goal wins, I guess! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Cash left over Having a few hundred extra K of cash in the bank at season's end is useful for three reasons: 1. Swapping draft picks. If you want a better rookie player for next year than your final league position would merit, you typically have to pony up some cash to get it. 2. If picks isn't your thing, then having cash when trying to make an offseason trade is very nice too. Player swaps are difficult in FLATNZ compared to other leagues because there are so few new players coming into the league each season and no auctions, so every player worth trading for has been painstakingly developed by a manager at considerable team expense. Being able to provide cash compensation to make up for value difference is a must as very few teams ever are able to pull a 2-for-1 swap without crippling their own depth in the process. 3. For me, the real value is that I often plan on spending more CP/TP than can be used for free in the 31 games we are guaranteed. In order to get the most use out of spending 25k for each extra slot, I try to get the extra slots in as close to the start of the season as possible. Preferrably within the first three sessions. Having the extra cash saved up allows a manager to use 7-8 slots in a match all at once and get a big team improvement. If there is only 2-300k available, that really limits the number I can use each session as the cash drains away too quickly, both with multiple players being trained/coached, and for the extra slots on top of the increased development costs. It's worth it though. If you have to spend the 25k to get the extra slot anyway, get it out early so the extra SL can be used for 28+ matches instead of 20 or 15 or just 10 later on. Same is true for right after mid-season aging. If you're planning on spending extra K for CP/TP slots, try to get them done in the first session or two of Alpha/Beta play to get the most use out of your investment. If you head into the offseason with next to nothing in the bank, your team will develop more slowly to start the season. As points from the first league match count the same as points from the last league match, getting an early jump on the competition is critical if you are planning on making a good Cup playoff run. |
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cash incentive So what can we buy with the cash at the end of the season? I've got a bit in the bank following Kev's advice at the start of my management of the Alcholics and I'm not training up multiple players per match so should keep what we have so far. Looking forward to seeing if I can get another forward, there aren't many teams in the league with worse than my solitary Blackadder up front. It's a good thing I have a cunning plan... |
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Cash Calculations The 25k extra slot cost did process. I forgot to subtract it from the Match 21 costs when removing McBride from the coached players list. So the balance is correct. Now I just have to figure out why. |
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Cash calculations Thanks, Kevin. Ohhhh-kay. Turk McBride is a Captain's Bonus, not coaching. We can ignore the first 2 matches, as there was enough to cover. What I get for Match 23 is starting cash (133k+58k) + match income 82k = 273k. TP is done first, so -148k = 125k First CP okay, -60k = 65k Second CP okay, because charge for extra slot not taken into account for this process. -48k = 17k Extra coaching slot flagged, so processed in another part of the routine. -25k = -8k Third CP should not have processed because there aren't sufficient funds, but it did. Bug. -50k = -58k Flag not set for extra coaching, as it wasn't supposed to happen, so -25k not removed. So there is a definite bug there. Sigh. It works if there is insufficient to process the first player, so I've probably got it in the wrong place. I guess to balance the books I should remove that 25k extra coaching from MLB, since the coaching went through. Still haven't checked to see whether the min SL fine was actually being applied, or just the message given. Definitely working before message was altered, and back in business now. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
MLB cash Here's what I've got so far, Tim: At the end of the prior session MLB had 688k in the bank. They got 50k for press money, so that's 738k. In match 21, they coached four players (220k+75k) and trained three (156k+50k) for a total of 501k spent. That leaves them 237k + 75k for the match income, which is 312k going into match 22. In match 22, they coached three players (142k+50k) and trained one (51k) for a total of 243k spent. That left them with 69k + 64k for the match income, which is 133k going into match 23. In match 23, they coached three players (158k+50k) and trained two (123k+25k) for a total of 356k spent. That would leave them with a balance of -223k before match revenue of 82k, and -141k after the match revenue was added. Instead, they show -58k currently.
So this leaves multiple questions:
Here's what the match reports show in terms of who had to receive CP/TP from one match to the next, so someone else can check my math to see if I made a simple adding error: And that's where I'm left getting my numbers from. What took place behind the match reports I can't see to help out any more. On the bright side, the program did nicely point out in the error reports that MLB had a bank balance below 0 for match 23! So that's going well for you... |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Min SL not met This seems to be processing - well GM got fined last session so I assume it's OK. I thought MLB must have been a software bug because they went from several 100k (not sure how much as I'm on a different computer) to their current balance in one session - and no fine reported. Then I looked at SL values and saw several big players increasing that added up to over 600k. |
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Reason to curse Kevin CP/TP should not be processing if the bank balance is less than the cost of the increase. Fines will, but I'm not sure whether the min SL fine has actually been processing, since it was still checking for the match thrown message... and I changed it to min SL not met. I discovered this while checking what the software was doing in response to Kevin's post. If anyone feels like checking bank balances to see why they went negative, or if minSL fines were actually applied recently, that would be helpful. Otherwise I will get around to it in my own sweet time, like with this Team of the Week thing, which is proving to be somewhat more complex to process than I thought. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Negative balances In the past, TP/CP have failed due to insufficient funds. Not sure how things worked out where a team was allowed to go into the red. As for KM, we're currently staring at a season-ending deficit of -371k. If we can get in press for the last four sessions (3 A/B + playoffs) that will cut it down to -171k. I would love at least 500k in the bank for next season, however it doesn't appear we'll make it. I'm guessing we'll be right around 300k if continue to average 60k per match in income. Some day, some far season away, we'll be able to dream again of a morale above .500... |
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Insufficient funds Sometimes I notice that a team has insufficient funds for CP or TP. GM was hit in match 22, possibly after the 100k fine. Other times I see teams with a negative bank balance at the end of the session. I thought that MLB had been hit by a bug with their massive drop in funds. When HOB were low in funds I trained the weaker players, that were going to be trained eventually, to make sure I wasn't caught out. Is it because a team has a small amount in the bank but then splashes out on a lot of CP and TP that takes them to large negative amounts and gate money isn't enough, or is it the 25ks for extra slots used? It isn't as though MLB will have gained much because they won't have enough cash for match 24 and so effectively wasted one or more 25k for the extra slots. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
re: trades In the old days you used to see CP or TP traded. Teams might not have had the cash to buy the CP and TP they needed at the start of the season so overpaid later. Also you had to buy 30 or more TP or none and some would trade away TP they didn't need. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Re: Trades Yeah in other games you have regular auctions bringing new players into the league. This means there is a surplus which people may want to trade. With cash being hard to come by and teams only getting three new players via the draft few people want to lose players. |
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re: Trades Player trades cant happen after Conference play ends, effectively establishing a trade deadline. Tim will tell you otherwise arguing that you can still trade but the transfer doesn't happen til after the season ends. I imagine you could trade draft picks but no one does. The real restraint on trades is that SL's are just too tight. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Trades Are trades allowed in Flatnz or does just nobody want to trade |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Expansion That wasn't quite the kind of personal I was referring to, Phil. :-) More about the number of silent managers. But I guess the number of vocal managers increases too, so it balances out. I would probably want to have 10 managers signed up before I'd expand. Current attrition is usually -2 a season. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
One of a kind Not bad... As someone said... we are one of the worst teams of the League... so, we can't complain about this session. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 26 March. The following teams receive 10k: DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Expansion Well, if there are enough managers that are willing to play im not against it. It always feels better to win the league when there are more people involved in the game :D |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Expansion Are there enough new managers for expansion? It seems like we've had a problem with needing "ghost managers" the past season or two. As for 24 managers not being "personal." Take my word for it. SESL has 48 managers and sometimes the blog gets VERY personal. :-) I have climbed the highest mountains in Colorado. I have hiked canyons in the desert. I have pulled all-nighters in college...back-to-back. I have run distance races. I have played/officiated basketball tournaments that lasted ten hours.... But I have never known "tired" like I know "tired" now. Never mind. I can sleep when she leaves for college. |
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Expansion Yes. Be something like North, South & East, then top 2 from each, plus next 2 on points, go to Alpha, next 8 to Beta & the others to Gamma (Plate). If it did expand to 32, it has been suggested that the 4th group play for the Saucer. ;) |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Expansion So how would that work, 3 groups of 8 - then still a split?? |
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Re: FLATNZ expansion FLATNZ is set up so that it can expand by groups of 8, pretty much indefinitely. However, more than 24 has a tendency to become impersonal, so I'd be reluctant to go over 24. It would also require some more work on updating the press bonus side of things. At the moment entering the blog and team press awards and writing the commissioner's comments take the most time. Unless there is a problem in a lineup, running matches takes about 2-5 minutes (download orders, check who is NMR, copy orders to operating directory, run matches). When everything is correct, I can run a session in 30-45 minutes, with 20 minutes being press & comment, and the rest being running matches & updating the site. So I'm not averse to the idea of expanding by another group. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
FLATNZ expansion? If there is a big demand for people to join the game will the league increase in size? I'm just wondering as there could be an influx of players wanting to get a free management fix if fees get introduced to other games. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Team of the Season I'd be happier if we could get a goalkeeper in that team. It's a little amusing that James O'Reilly, a 1/3 MF, is in that team. Maybe he's just been lucky to be in the games we've done well. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Measure of excellence Sure, HOB has just two losses on the season and currently sits 8 points clear of 2nd place in the league. It's the way they've built up that lead that leaves me wondering if there is anyone who can muster the upset this season when it matters most. They have 8 players on the Team of the Season. Not week. Season. That takes consistent dominance across all matches on the offense and defense. No team has ever had more than six before, so if this keeps up we'll watch some more FLATNZ history in the making. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Hall Suspension I'm quite disappointed. I instructed the ref to red card Taylor. I'll be asking for my money back. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Swimming with the sharks now... Make one joke about Tim and a suspended GK and lo and behold Hall gets suspended. Robin tries to play a suspended player while Turner fakes an injury. Rough crowd up here! |
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Blog Participation Bonus 12 March. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, DVV, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here It's even worse than that, Kevin. Mary's confident that the World Championships won't be broadcast at all this year. The schedule promises time on ABC Family, but the track record is pretty poor for actually keeping that promise. Not that it matters...after the Olympics, most of the competitors aren't going to Worlds anyway. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
It's Game Da... Whoops. A bit too fast this time around. Forgot about the one-day delay. I can handle the 5 or even 10 second delay from live in case of language or graphic images. But pre-recording and broadcasting the matches a full day later tells me that we've got a brutal TV contract (even worse than US Hockey right now) and we'll have to look at renegotiating that next time the Collective Bargaining Agreement for FLATNZ comes up. What kind of sport shows its featured matches and results a day after you could see them live? Have we sunk to the level of Figure Skating? |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Second parts wouldn't be good Alpha and Beta are going to start next week... and so? Simple... History is not with us |
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Show Him The Money Yes, belated congratulations Steve on the 2 wins in the All-Star games I wasn't sure what tactics I would be up against and gambled the last one you would Press so went for the counter-attack. I found you just went aggressive across the board instead! My only (usual) grumble would be that I only had a couple of players going aggro and I was the one (well Jerry Lee Lewis was) conceding 2 PKs! At least we saved one of them though. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Nah... The bet was to outscore him, which he didn't. Nice job Steve, taking it to the Northern boys. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Five virtual dollars go to LSD as Kosak did indeed outshoot Shooter. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Team of the week How can McSporran be in the team of the week? He didnt play for a minute this season :D |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
33k I think 32k is the lowest gate money you can get in Flatnz. That's assuming two teams losing all 3 origin games, all 14 Conference games, the first 6 Beta games, drawing against each other (I didn't work out what happened if the home team won) then losing the next 6 before meeting in the last game of their sorry season. There may be rounding errors depending on how many decimal places Olmec stores so +/- 1k on that as well. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Congrats Phil Tell Mary thanks but honestly, no chance of running out of nicknames.... |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Congratulations Congrats on the baby Phil. Congratulations also to Canada for their Ice Hockey success. I'm not a bug fan of many winter events, but the hockey is certainly exciting. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here USA-Canada was a fantastic hockey match, the end result notwithstanding. Actually, both USA-Canada Olympic match ups were superb. The quality of players and game play was top notch. Amazing. Actually, I'll go one step further. Olympic hockey overall was filled with quality players and spirited game play. SUI-USA was great. CZE-Latvia, really fun to watch the last few minutes of fury. Also, Mary picked a great day to be in labor. Contractions started during the second intermission of the USA-SUI slugfest. They picked up the pace during halftime of the Mizzou-Colorado basketball tilt. They moved us to the birthing room immediately after the short track speed skating. We recuperated the next night watching the long program of women's figure skating. (Mary thinks Marai Nagasu deserved a bronze, but hard to argue with Rochette's adversity and the home ice advantage storyline.) BTW, if anyone has run short of nicknames to call me, Mary came up with a few during labor....she'll come up with a few more if she reads this entry. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
WRR making playoffs Every season, Rob; every season. And that gold medal match of ice hockey was one worthy of the name! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Match revenue Out of curiousity, has anyone sat down and figured out what the worst possible match revenue could be for a single game in this league? I'm just wondering how close the KM-TUC match will come in match 23... We only need to average 43k per match from here out to finish the season with money in the bank at KM. So I'm really hoping that the minimum stays above 0 at least, so we don't end up having to pay money for the privilege of "competing" in that one... ;-) |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Blah Blah Blah..... Is WRR even making the playoffs? |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Southern Juniors After posting that Rob handed out a bit of a lesson (based on the goals), I read the match results with a bit more attention, and I have to say I would welcome him playing like that against me in the playoffs! ;-) |
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Session Day of the Week Changed (For those of you who notice when the deadline is, and are wondering why it is a different day.) My study schedule is in, and as I'll (theoretically) be hard at work studying at the time of the week I am currently running the session, I've moved it to the following day. |
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Conference Awards SAT & LSD receive 50k as Conference Runners-Up. AA & HOB receive 100k as Conference Winners. Congratulations to all! |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: Fruit world Apple = fruit. Unless you live in the world of Linux or other superior systems, in which case I humbly bow to the penguin. |
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In the dark Fruit world? I live in a world without Windows (more allit...) Is that the same thing? |
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All-Stars & day change Not quite, Rob. Simon lives in the fruit world, so things not gone quite so smoothly there. And heads up for everybody; my study schedule is in, and I'll be moving sessions to my Friday morning. So deadline will be 24hrs later than at present. If I get Simon sorted soon (alliteration), I think I'll try and get the All-Stars and mid-season stuff done on Monday, and make 1900hrs GMT 11 Mar the deadline for Matches 18-20. I'll keep you all posted. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
misc Hi Tim. just sent you my orders. Im sure i was the last one. Re: Team of the Week. Last season I had players showing up that never got into a match. lol |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Re: Team of Week SL limit? No problem to do, and that does make sense. Although it is always amusing to have some weenie player turn up in the team. :) Doing 3-3-3 and then top rating player not already in team should be a fairly straight forward query mod. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Team of Week SL limit? While you are considering the overhaul, perhaps including a qualifier can be considered? In past years, I often found a fine member of the KM longball dynasty on the Team of the Week. That all-too-frequently included one of our midfielders. For the record, our midfield during the Cup seasons for KM peaked around SL 4. I used to joke that they made the Team of the Week by doing their job on the field perfectly... absolutely nothing. Just stay out of Morpheus's way and you'll get a good rating. Is there anything wrong with putting an SL 8+ or 10+ qualifier on the Team of the Week selections? Since there isn't any financial incentive for the bragging rights, that would limit the selections to those players who actually had an impact on the match instead of keeping it open for the space fillers who played because the program required me to put out two players at MF. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Team of the week I took the topic many post ago. I remember I said that a 3-4-3 team can't be a 'team of the week', arguing that if I put a line up like that in the field, probably lose the most of the played matches... So, i think it have to change... |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Team of the Week My vote: 1 GK 3 SW/SD/DF 3 DM/MF 3 MA/WG/FW/UT Next best overall rating (non-GK) for 11th player |
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Team of the Week/Season Much less important. At present, the team is selected from best GK, 3 best SW/SD/DF, 4 best DM/MF, 3 best WG/MA/FW/UT. Except in All-Stars, where it is 4-3-3. I'm thinking about how to smooth that a bit. For instance best 4 SW/SD/DF, unless 4th DM/MF is better. Or 2 from each group, with the rest determined on rating. I'm aware that the WG/MA/FW/UT group is likely to always have the highest ratings, since they take the most shots. Any other ideas? What kind of representation do we want on the team of the week/season? Or just leave it as it is? |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Congratulations I would like to extend the league's warmest welcome to Makayla, and our congratulations to Phil & Mary. I know it hasn't been the smoothest road for you guys, and I'm delighted for you all! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Baby Beagle Phil McIntosh at MLB is now the very proud father of his first child, a baby girl. Makayla joined Clan McIntosh this early morning. By reports from the chief, all parties are doing fine. Rumor has it that Phil didn't even pass out and that Mary didn't kill him during labor and delivery. He probably won't be posting much in the next week or two, though feel free to share congratulations and he'll see them soon enough. |
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Friendly wager He'll do well to because I will be playing Kosak in defence. At 80% of his normal SL he still puts more on the pitch, 1.4 of his SL compared to MF of FW at longball (both 1.25). We're a bit short in defence. |
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Southern team offensive Looks like the Utility players for the South will be playing at DF. 1 GK, 1 SW, and 2 DFs is all the South can manage for a defensive lineup? Everyone else is MA, WG, FW apart from the 2 UTs. That's a whole lot of firepower. I'm guessing they won't be stalling much... |
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North Junior All-Stars Done I have just sent in my orders for the all star games. It was fun picking the players. It sorta felt like being an international manager and picking the best talent from your nation. When drawing up the squad I noted that the weakest defender and forward I named both play for SAT. Does this mean our youth policy sucks? |
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friendly wager Kosak bets $5 he outscores Shooter. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Feel free to raid my squad for all the players you need, Steve. I have plenty. Don't let us down. |
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Title here That last comment was meant for the PR page. Sorry. |
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??? Kevin enjoyed reading the matchplay? Hmmmmm...that explains the explicatives that came flying down the hall from his office, as well as one office plant, a paper weight, and a candle. |
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Northern All Stars OK I've got my 16 players, 2 x UTs and 3 MAs for us (I thought I had the Odd Squads' Bender, but he's too young so Bad Ted will get his spot) |
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South has no chance... As much as I hate to admit it...just look at the coaching stats. We're up against the all time leaders in FLATNZ in win percentage. It's over... |
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Dirty and aggressive? Simon, in Flatnz, I believe the code for that is P |
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North vs South That there thems fightin talk! I guess I'm taking a posse of 2+ players from the Northern 'hardmen' Conference to wup some Southern 'softies' Conference tails then! If anyone from the North wants a particular player to take part from their squad let me know Now can anyone tell me how to get every player to go both dirty and aggressive at the same time?... |
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Re: Northern All Star Must have been the softer conference... |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
And don't fret too much All of us have made lineup mistakes before, Simon. The extra revenue from the conference finish will pay for the extra CP/TP slots for the 2 games you missed out on. No worries. |
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Northern All-Star Have we ever had a rookie manager win his/her conference before? Nice job, Simon! |
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Come ON the NORTH Just wondering where Mr. Tim's allegiance is ? It appears that Waikato is in North Island , so we should expect a comfortable win as the North beat the Southern Softies :)
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Re: Mistakes As someone who numbered matches 4-6 as 1-3, you have my complete sympathy. |
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Southern All Stars I've picked the 16 players that will represent Southern for the All Stars game and with 5 MA and 2 UT players, hopefully it will be difficult to predict whether we're playing Normal, Longball or Ball Control |
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Stupid Mistake Just worked out where I went wrong - saved the lineups as matches 14-15 rather than 16-17... I'll get me coat... |
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its happened before... AA has a history of going NMR at inopportune times. Last time the lineups went to Tim's spam folder. |
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Not Happy I put the lineups in for AA two days ago. Yes I should probably have reviewed them to confirm they were in. But we drew the last two games and finish top of the Northern Conference, but all the TP/CP/OTF planning has been lost :-( |
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Blog Participation Bonus 18 February. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, DVV, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, ODD, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Rewarding stupidity? Huh. That explains a lot. Like how KM managed to win two Cups what feels like thirty seasons ago. Makes you wonder though... Rob won three, and Tim has won how many again? Six? There could be something to this theory after all. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Thankfully Tim has chosen not to punish stupidity. He has chosen to reward stupidity instead! (Thanks, Tim) |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
LUFC This was a creation by Nic Chilton and at the time I colaborated with him to create this . My input was minimal ( he had the brains) I just made suggestions :) Unfortuantely he fell foul of the mighty Al S. by publishing "cheat" suggestions , and in a flash he was gone. My memory is a bit dim , but i remember salvaging this some time back , not sure where the Spanish ? came from. Mine opens with a security alert re. LUFC.EXE (RUN) . Then este software Ha sido etc etc (OK) and I get the LUFC.
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Este software I'm afraid I can't enlighten you. If you ran the setup and then pasted in the updated exe, that's all I know to do. The Win7 machine I've done it on didn't do anything odd. |
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Este software... I recently bought a laptop with Windows 7 and since then LUFC starts with Este software ha sido etc. I think it did this with XP as well and I know there's a simple fix. Can somebody please enlighten me. |
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re: Be afraid Six points behind HOB isn't difficult when you're in the weaker conference, Tim :-) |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Be Afraid WRR currently has the league's worst scoring percentage. 15.4%. Now you know it can't possibly stay that way. And we're 6 points from HOB (league #1) on that pitiful strike rate. Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: MLB Rebate You certainly seem in need of something this season. Maybe you should change your lucky underwear? :P |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Re:Mlb rebate I was misunderstood too and i can learn from my mistakes. Now, give me back my money:D |
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MLB Rebate Speaking of controversial, I've rebated MLB 200k worth of fines. Over the past season and a half Phil has accumulated a truly impressive total of fines to his intense frustration and confusion, since he couldn't figure out where he was going wrong. We seem to have finally found daylight on it, and in the interest of encouraging learning and not penalising people for honest misunderstanding any more than I have to, I've decided to return a portion of the cash that has been taken off MLB. And no, I'm not returning any of yours, Rob or Denis. This is blatant favouritism towards cats. Waitangi Day commemorates the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi between the majority of Maori tribes and the British Crown that birthed New Zealand as a nation, with Maori retaining much control and resources. The treaty was subsequently significantly abused and ignored by the Crown representatives in New Zealand, but the treaty remained in existence, and about 25 years ago efforts began to redress the balance of the abuse where possible. That process is largely completed. The next step (IMHO) is for New Zealand to write a constitution and declare independence. At present we are one of the few democracies in the world without a constitution, and legally are still tied to the Crown. The Governor General has the final authority. In practice this isn't the case, and at some point that needs to addressed. NZ has no legal means to challenge any action the governing party has the numbers to pass, except chuck them out at the next election. There is no such thing as an unconstitutional law in NZ. |
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Waitangi Day I don't know Kevin. Seems controversial to me. lol |
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Happy Waitangi Day! or so my calendar tells me it is. I can't say that I know what that means or if this is even supposed to be a "Happy" or "Merry" or solemn occasion. I'll google it later on when I'm bored. In the mean time, I'd hate to be remiss and not extend some warm Waitangi wishes for my fine Kiwi friends! |
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NMR Session I am very sorry for the NMR. A bunch of things happened last week so I didn't get round to writing a blog entry or press release. I however thought I had already submitted orders. Clearly I got muddled up due to all the other lineups I had to make for other games. I will be more careful in the future. Maybe I will make a check list in Excel so at a glance I know what needs doing. |
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Bowl Playoffs Could be a tough year to win the Bowl. If Beta would start today, 3 teams with T11's in the top five would be wrangling for the Bowl not the Cup. Ouch! |
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Revolving Shield Very ODD results for the Shield matches this session, and not just the ending team! The first Shield defense ended up being an all-NMR affair... quickly followed by the 2nd one being an all-NMR affair as well. Fortunately Robin has built up a solid normal team that NMRs very well as they take the Shield and then hold it. They'll need to be on their toes next session though, as they immediately end up with another Shield defense against Willy the Rat and his pet manager Mr. Given. Rumor has it that Willy wants the Shield back now, having watched it get stolen from him prior this season. And Jason is put on notice that should WRR get the Shield in match 16, then OLY gets a shot at it to end the conference campaign as they travel to WRR for match 17. I'm betting on far more interesting affairs than the all-NMR fest we say this session. The best news right now is that the Shield is heading off to Alpha in any case, which will be very far from KM for the rest of this season so we won't be tempted to T11 and try for it yet again. We really have no self control about such things. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Good results Kicking the butts of gentlemen twice your age (and a bit), Josh. Doing me proud! |
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good results!!! had some great result yay!!! havent lost for 5 games choice buzz :) |
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AA Lineups You can use the Check button to review what you've created or uploaded, Simon. Match 15 wasn't there at all, and the other two lineups didn't have a player specified to substitute with. |
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Top Of The Table A good start to my managerial career - 2 wins and a draw to go top of the Northern Conference! Not sure what happened to lineup 15, unfortunately it missed the TP and CP slots for the match and none of my substitutions went through for any of the matches. Will see if I can work out the kinks for the final 2 matches, but with 7 points from 9 I can hardly complain about my start. |
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....... resist...the...urge...to...post... |
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Blog Participation Bonus 4 February. The following teams receive 10k: AA, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here What's a "tee one one"? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
But of course Apologies to Sir Robert Anderson, noble protector of the innocent! Playing in the North, I was unaware of the dire threat that Mr. I Hate Puppies Shooter posed to our fair league's continued popularity. Such atrocities against our fine pixelated fans can no longer go ignored. Surely only the diabolical Steve (not to be confused with Steven, who was kind enough to share some points with lowly KM this season) would hire such a strong-legged and weak-eyed thug to his team. Perhaps he is also fresh out of prison and in need of glasses along the lines of Charlie Sheen's character in Major League? In wishing luck to the Dragons to end Mr. Shooter's season of terror, it appears the traditional theater send off is far more apt for the circumstances at hand: Break a leg. |
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au contraire mon frere Trevor Shooter is such a tremendous striker that his errant shots actually endanger innocent women and children. The Dragons are merely doing the community a favor.... |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
I'm really glad... to be playing in the North this conference season. With such fine displays of sportsmanship from the Southern contenders we're a bit concerned about the safety of the women and children who may wish to attend some games this coming week. Fortunately, it would appear that all of that will head on up to Alpha - where we are in absolutely no danger of ending up! |
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Your outnumbered... 3 vs 2. Plus the Dragons have you first and are planning on breaking Trevor's leg. |
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Feel free to T11 me cuz I'm T11ing 2 of you |
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Hey Phil I forgot to mention that a dog would have been able to figure that out on his own. Also SCO and I are T11ing HOB this next session. Feel free to pile on! |
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Tough 2 wins, 3 draws, 4 loses... Bad numbers for a not quite bad team. Can't find the correct lineup |
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Re: Phil 3) all of the above! |
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Cash flow It gets quite hard to juggle the cash when you're poor. We have 104k and I predict us to finish the season with 66k - and that's if we get 80k gate money per game. So far we're at 80.6k. 66k is just enough as I'm only using 18 more TP with a minimum of 19 games. But with just 104k I can't coach or train the star players and have to spend a session CP and TP-ing the weaker players. At least I'll start the next session with more money than this - the first time in nearly a season and a half. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here 1. MLB will no doubt piss you off and you'll be urged to T11 them. 2. Resist the urge as a solid T17 will suffice. Clyde & Calvin are still trying to figure out which one of these statements is the actual insult from Rob. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here 1. MLB will no doubt piss you off and you'll be urged to T11 them. 2. Resist the urge as a solid T17 will suffice. Clyde & Calvin are still trying to figure out which one of these statements is the actual insult from Rob. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Given Credit ... where credit is due, well, we don't think KM receives any credit for their win over us last round. We would like to point out the 45 minute substitution of nearly 90SL off the field, and the whole stress of recovering from an NMR session that only occured because we were dumb enough to number our lineups wrong, and failed to notice even when setting up the session to run, that WRR where the only team trying to play matches 1-3 again. Next time it will be different. If only because we'll be paying attention to what is happening. |
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AA coach pic bonus AA receives 50k for coach pic. |
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Not yet :-) That's not me. The image is much too clear! |
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Hello Well it's probably one of the warmest welcomes I've ever had to a management football game, thanks guys and Tim especially for the docs and detailed portfolios on how to beat each team in the league (except his own)... For once I'm inheriting a team in good shape, my thanks to Kevin for that! The team appears to be formed along a similar themed tactic to my Olmec SFLSL side (run under my nickname Roy Rolsten) I look forward to seeing if Tim has uploaded my suitably blurry/pixelated profile pic when I press this button. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Correction Paragraph two, last sentence: should have read "playing like a rookie," as in Roy/Simon has proven to be a good manager in at least two other leagues and should get a grasp of the quirks to the rules in this one before the All-Star Break. T11 while you can. |
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Identity check? Welcome to Simon! It's bittersweet handing over AA, as first off they weren't my team to keep and that's less to do before each session so I don't mind in the least. On the other hand, they're currently in Alpha contention and only 2 points back from the conference lead so vicariously they were my only real shot at success this season. Ah well, they appear to have fallen into capable hands. Though the name says Simon Rowlinson, the e-mail address says Roy Rolston? Would this be the infamous leader of Forest in MSWL United? If so, perhaps I will have to re-think my opening lines for this coming session as we face off against AA in match 13. Something unexpected may be called for as Roy won't be playing a rookie in this league for more than a session, if at all! We'll also have to think about how to play WRR this time around. I'm doubting that the Counter tactic will catch them by surprise again. Though perhaps in saying that they'll think we'll switch from it so it'll work again. Which in saying that will make them think that we'll go C again and leave them open to another strategy. Or just throw our hands in the air and realize that Willy doesn't think that deep and will probably come to Graymalkin Lane and simply bash us in the head with a T11. That sounds more like him. So be it. Should be an entertaining session all around. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
300 8 teams with 300+ total SL. Most seasons only a couple of teams reach this height. The benefits of using 2 season's resources in one season. Expect to see this fall back significantly next season. |
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LSD odds you mean were not? |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Red Wing Update When I first read your post, I thought you were saying LSD was 13-1 to take the cup. :P |
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Welcome Simon! You'll learn soon enough but I'll save you a bit of time. T11 WRR, SAT and HOB. MLB will no doubt piss you off and you'll be urged to T11 them. Resist the urge as a solid T17 will suffice. The Shield helps your defense (common sense really). Try and take it whenever possible. Thats enough to chew on for now. Let me know if I can help further. Rob |
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So close! Dang! With just a smidgen more luck we could have been top of the conference! |
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Red Wing update Still just outside the playoffs. have a friend in Vegas this week. He says they're 13-1 odds to win the Cup this year. I threw $20 down on them. |
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Blog Participation Bonus 21 January. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, OLY, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Lineup creator Does everyone use the lineup creator or am i the only one still using the one on the site. Tried using the offsite one this week and it was alot better so hopefully havent messed it up. |
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Schedule If there is a vote going on, im vote for one game per week. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Two-to-one applies in FLATNZ? I thought we got rid of that when we eliminated the SL mininum match requirement? I've got to get some software to read these rules! And where's my TP and CP allotment for this season?! |
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![]() Holylanders Jason Dowson |
Thanks Tim Thanks for the tip Tim, I didn't realise that the 2:1 rule applied. Remarkable that OLY are doing quite well given that schoolboy error! |
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Scheduling At the moment I prefer 3 matches every 2 weeks but that's just because I'm not on the computer much these days. But if I was I think 1 match per week is the way to go for the same reasons someone said in an email (Phil maybe) - it's just guesswork what kind of team you're going to be facing. There's also suspensions which can only affect the 1st game in a 3 game schedule. |
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Thinking Devious Unless the plan is to make Beta and then surprise people. In which case... oops. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Details on Coaching Tip OLY N lineup, MF of 7, cut FWs to 14. Stats: GP 39.6, DEF 76.45, OFF 108.08 - total 224.13 Want another option? N, with Charles Dickens oop as MF. GP 39.60, DEF 85.25, OFF 136.68 - total 261.53! Change what you're doing and put yourself on track as a serious Alpha contender! |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Coaching Tip Okay, so giving your opponent a hand may not be the brightest thing to do, but on reviewing your matches to date, Jason, so that I could best determine how to play against you, I see you've played all your matches Normal, with a midfield that is not adequate to support your FWs. Your FW contribution is getting chopped down to 30SL because your MF is only 15. Switch to L or play someone out of position at MF, buddy, because only your WGs are keeping you in the game! |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Random Observations Player of the Season still a 6-way tie. Bank balances to make accountants' cry. Unless they're working for DVV. Although ASM & ODD aren't far behind. Meanwhile the league's strongest team has an operating capital of a mere 120 thousand. We are definitely not the Premier League around here! :-) How does ODD manage to have a Golden Boot leader on the back of 52% Stall? Man, is Pirongia ever saving Willy's cheese. And WRR has the lowest scoring percentage in the entire league. Not sure how thrilled I am about that combination. |
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Re: Match Schedule I got 4 quick affirmatives to changing it to weekly, followed by 4 who think it would be better to stay with multiple match sessions. The rest are probably easy either way. My usual policy in this situation is just to leave things as they are. :-) I very much take on board the comments that the multi-match session increases a manager controlled random element, as opposed to the computer generated one. I've always been a fan of keeping the computer controlled randomness to a minimum, but predictability is a bit boring. A third quicker season is good too. You can tell which way I'm leaning. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Match schedule Chiming in on the match schedule query by Tim... Going to one match per week is a plus in that every match gets full attention. Managers are less likely to completely throw one because it's another week or two before they get around to winning again. Further, injuries and suspensions come into play immediately so the opponents get a fair shake at a weakened team. Also, should a certain team happen to win the Shield against all odds in match 2 of a session and not know it then they played way too weak a lineup to keep it in match 3 and that's just a shame that no real Shield Defense was ever mounted. Not that such a thing happened last session or anything... On the down side, little teams don't get overlooked as much so upsets will probably be less frequent. Further, if a team tanks one match to save up EL for a big clash it will be obvious. There won't be any more guessing about which one or two matches will see a top line and playing the odds for victories or stalling to steal points against better teams. Also, as Robin deftly points out in his e-mail, when you know you're going to lose the whole week isn't any fun. Nothing like just waiting to see how bad the goal differential is going to get as the only surprise coming for you!
Proposal for compromising the above pluses and minuses: I really prefer multiple games per session myself, even if just two. I feel it increases the unpredictability of the league. It also speeds up the season which would be increased by going to a one-per-week schedule. FLATNZ tends to tarry on a bit in terms of seasons per year as it is. Picking up the pace to give teams having an off-year or rebuilding a glimmer of hope in the now foreseeable future wouldn't hurt things. Yes, that would screw up the current press schedule. However a man like Tim would surely be able to prorate that out over the season so it either comes out the same or just a few K higher or lower than is currently possible. I can help there if needed. So overall, I'm fine as it is, or switching to once weekly, or splitting the difference with a two-per slate. Mostly just laying out some discussion points for people to pick up on if they hadn't thought of how they feel yet. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
dammit The new managers of ASM anounce they have it figured out just prior to playing me. I was really hoping for the match afterwards.... |
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![]() Ashhurst Spectacular Moreporks x |
nearly there well i'm now understanding the game so this is quiet kool choice buzz !!! :) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Schedule Change I don't mind if the deadlines change. I sorta like the two week deadlines with three games played at once as I sometimes lose track of what I have to send in and when (I am in three other leagues that have regular deadlines.) If Tim is happy with one match a week that's fine I'll still manage to cope. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Oops 4 in the next match. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Gah 3 goals from players with lower SL than my GK in one match, while I can't score with 4 from a player with higher SL than their GK. I think my GK's been taking lessons from Steve. Need to send him round to Robin. Ironically, until I read the match reports, I was reasonably content with my results. :P |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 7 January. The following teams receive 10k: AA, DVV, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here In an even more unrelated note, USA beats Canada in junior world hockey championship. |
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Red Wing Update After losing Hossa and Kopecky to the Blackhawks in the off season and Hudler (KHL) and Samuelson (not sure where he went) the Wings were expected to struggle offensively and they have. Adding salt to the literal wound, they've been devistated with injuries. Currently they sit just outside of the playoff race (not unlike LSD). All is not lost however. The wounded are starting to trickle back to the lineup and with their rookie GK (again not unlike LSD) playing well enough to unseat Chris Osgood as the starter, fans are optimistic of the Wings becoming dominant toward season's end (once more not unlike LSD). (In an unrelated note, some things never change, The Blues fired their coach again.) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Dire warnings I'm surprised to read that we've put so much SL into our team compared to other teams, especially considering our cash shortage. Four of those SL are captain's bonuses of course that will keep Steve Turner as the number one pick and therefore more likely to pick up the other six. I do actually have to look at my CP and TP usage for this session because we only have 299k to use after the press has been added and I'm spending 420k. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Re: DVV Reimbursement Now i know why Mike call them Kiwi mafia:) Im sure i will get penalized for playing bellow 40% but not yet:D |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Happy New Year to Tim and all the gang. Clyde & Calvin wish you many mouses on your doorstep and may your mating season be long and fruitful. Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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DVV Reimbursement DVV is reimbursed the 100k fine for not meeting the minimum SL requirements for their team in Match 4, as they were well above the minimum at all points during the match. Now I have to figure out why the program fined them. :-( |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Back in Training Been home for less than 3 hours, and lineups are done for next session. And I've checked 3 times that they are labeled 7, 8 & 9. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Dire Warnings For those happy with their team development, I have bad news...
So far, the teams on the high and low end of the T11 tables have increased their SL the most this season. For the other 14 teams (including KM), we need to pick up the pace or we're in trouble.
On the high end, DVV is 2nd in the league on T11 and they have also added 24 SL to their team. With the most cash at this point, I expect that trend to continue. After last season's fade from top competitor status, they are in good form to battle back to the Cup Playoffs. So there you have it. The little fish are getting bigger faster than you are, while the biggest fish can still swallow you whole. Happy New Year indeed... |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Happy Holidays Merry Christmas delayed greeting and wishes for a very happy new year for all of you. |
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re Commish NMR Perhaps that is the replayed results.... |
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Gone to the beach Uh, that should be, "Out of the office." The commissioner will be back in the office on January 1st, although probably not in any condition to do any league business until the 2nd, at least. Hope you all had a good Christmas. We had a vomitous Christmas Eve, with 2 bed changes and 3 lots hitting the carpet, but Christmas Day was much better, and by the end of the day, everyone was feeling pretty chirpy. Lots of family and presents. Boxing Day spent helping my sister and her husband move house. We're off to the beach now for a few days, aiming to be back in time for a New Year's Eve party. Do fun and have heaps! :-) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Commish NMR Two wins and a draw. Why would he replay the games ;-) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Silly Me So I named strong lineups for the Origin Powerball as I am desperate for cash and can barely afford to train my players or even buy a Turkey for the team's Christmas party. Despite this I forgot to submit a press release and thereby missed out on 40k income. That's almost as silly as a commissioner going NMR in his own league :-) At least it shows that Tim is honest as he didn't replay the games. Too honest to accept my bribes too judging by my bad start to the season :-P |
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Blog Participation Bonus 24 Dec. The following teams received 10k: AA, ASM, DVV, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here ...and Mouseltoe will be hung above every entrance to the stadium so you can have an excuse to kiss you sweetie as you arrive. Now, if you're attending with your best buddy...ignore the mouseltoe and proceed straight to the eggfrog. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Christmas session DVVs management is happy that the games will be played before Christmas and would like to wish Merry Christmas to everyone participating in this game. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. In the spirit of the Christmas holiday, the cats will be serving their new holiday treat at home this week. That's right, fans will be treated to a nice glass of eggfrog at halftime. They hope that this will catch on across the league and boost their lagging mouse nip sales. Mouse nips have become less popular since Kevin Martin and others began to speculate on what part of the mouse constitutes the "nip." We're still trying to figure this game out, so we'll be shooting for bowl contention all the way. Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Close enough! The day before the day before Christmas? Close enough for KM! Pass the eggnog and start unwrapping the presents. Dim the houselights and sing some songs to the glow of the Christmas tree and/or fireplace. Read a good story to the family (I'm a fan of Luke, Chapter 2, for this particular occasion). And best wishes to all my fine FLATNZ friends and their families in the coming year... after the matches are done of course. "Peace on earth and good will to all mankind" does not extend to the hallowed pitches of cyber-football. I believe "break a leg" is closer to the proper pre-show mantra here, and not in the reverse-jinx theater blessing kind of way... ;-) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
re: pre-Christmas It's the day before the day before Christmas here, Mike, although it will be the day before in New Zealand. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Pre-Christmas The day before Christmas, the League will play a session... Please, Santa, we are good guys... |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
BZZZ. Thank you for playing. Age 0 can't play out of position. |
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Re: draft player Sorry Tim. You may have sent it three weeks ago but I guess you now know when I actually got around to looking at it. Not that it mattered much. I could always just play him out of position in MF. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: What a scare Yeah, I think I might have been in a bit of a hurry. I didn't update the email addresses, the links or attach the files to the template email before I sent it out. Oh well, now I know you're all awake and actually use the things I go to the effort of making available. :-) |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Little Phil/lippa? Is she really, Phil? Because some fairly major congratulations are in order in that case! As for the other, that was a commissioner SNAFU (and no, I don't intend to spell that out). However, if you really truly desire your 7/2 MA to be repositioned as a WG, I'll give it to you as a congratulatory present. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Draft Player Hi, Tim. I saw the note on the front page about Rob "Red Wing" Anderson doing the ol' swapperoo on his draft pick. I didn't realize that there was no statute of limitations on such an act. Accordingly, I sat down and reviewed my roster for the first time in about six seasons (O Wherefore Are Thou, Forwards) and discovered that one of my draft players indeed was misclassified. About seven seasons ago. Greg Wesley is now a 7/2 MA...clearly I wanted a winger. I now realize that this administrative oversight by the league office is the cause of much demise, otherwise known as "the current state of affairs at MLB." Lawsuit pending. Damages to include financial depreciation of the franchise, emotional stress, and virtually everything under the sun except for loss of consortium...my wife is pregnant. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
What a scare! I clicked on the match results link in the email and noted that my team was playing all passive. Needless to say there was much frothing at the mouth and cursing that the lineup upload had not gone smoothly. Then, after checking the actual site, I realised the match result I saw was for for last season match one and that my orders had arrived safely. Silly me. |
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![]() Ashhurst Spectacular Moreporks x |
start hi um... this is gunna be fun!!!! i won one game, yay!! |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Coach Pics DVV & SCO receive 50k for updated coach pic. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog Participation Bonus 10 Dec. The following teams received 10k: DVV, HOB, KM, LSD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
DVV blog Does it mater who wins it? I dont think so and we can expect a few NMRs at the start of the season anyway. |
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![]() Lake Superior Dragons x |
Glory days Anyone rememeber the days when NA would dominate OP? Seems so long ago. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Was enough? I mean, the post I wrote two weeks ago... was enough or the count begins now? Good luck to everyone. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
UK on top? SAT is the #1 UK seed, as they should be with the 2nd best OFF in the league. They had no business being in Beta last season, as it was entirely due to NMRs from prior management. North America on the other hand... our top seed and #2 seed were in the Bowl playoffs with them. Along with AA, who happens to be the 4th seed for UK! Can any of us little fish hope to survive against the Shark in our pond? Or will the points lead that AA can build up be too big to overcome in the other groups? Apologies to Rob & Phil & Melo. Looks like it's a 50k year for the NA. Unless LoN wants to totally tank again so we can get the 100k bonus? |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
OP answers Many thanks for the info guys. I must confess that I was planning to use the games to train the young uns. Extra money would however come in handy (just look at my bank balance ouchie.) After much thought I think I will try my best in all three games as I don't want to let the UK group down. |
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OP questions As Steve said. Many managers use it as free time to coach those brand new players (especially GKs), since it has no impact on the season. Effectively it is purely a revenue source. I decided that the 28 matches was just not quite enough. OP is a way to give teams a bit more cash in a more interesting manner. :-) Nothing resets in FLATNZ until the end of the season. Please note that your rosters show only data relevant to the regular season competition (C1). So while DP and EL will show the same, your roster won't show minutes played, since OP is a separate competition (C2). Don't worry - they're still there. Your age 0 will still count the OP minutes against their seasoning. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Origin Powerball answers 1. Each team adds their points to the group total. SAT are in the UK group. The group with the most points gets 200k per team down to 50k for the last group. 2. SAT are the strongest UK team so you are in strongest group. If you think you're in the wrong group take it up with commish for next season. 3. EL and DP are not reset. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Origin Powerball 2 Origin Powerball The new season is almost upon us and I have some questions. 1. Do you get any prize for winning your group?
Oops I forgot the HTML in the last post *blushes* |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Origin Powerball The new season is almost upon us and I have some questions. 1. Do you get any prize for winning your group? 2. Why am I stuck in the toughest group? 3. Does player EL get set to 10 after the matches end? |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
FW for sale David Cadorin a 6/15 FW is on sale... If anyone is looking for a really good sub, this is the moment. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Is this thing on? Does it worth? I mean, write in the blog... Well, doesn't matter... congratulations to the Kiwis for made the WC. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
NZ Going to WC Yeah, utterly fantastic!! Just so happened I was spending the weekend in a hotel and got to watch the game live. (Don't have Sky at home.) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
New Zealand Make The Finals! Congrats to the kiwis on qualifying for the World Cup. |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Is this thing on? Thanks, buddy. Hopefully that is the last of the transfer issues. All new issues should be of my own making... or Steve putting a drill through the hard line. ;-) Uhh, that's yet another Steve, not either of you guys playing. |
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Is this thing on? Hello? |
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Admin Message: Sorry People! It is I - Admin the not so great. Bit of a stuffup over the weekend gave me a push to move the site to a more stable location. *Shouldn't* be any more issues. Thanks for your patience, or at least thanks for not yelling at Tim too much. |
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imagine that. I led the league in fines! |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Below... Listed below are the total expenses for all clubs this past season. If you want a more detailed breakdown for your team or have any questions, drop me an e-mail or post a blog reply. Robin, I advise sitting down and drinking heavily before you start reviewing the numbers. Your wallet may start crying in pain otherwise... and if you look at HOB's numbers by mistake you may have a heart attack. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
WRR Starting cash: 3700k Ending cash: 1605k Total spent: 4745k Total income: 3550k Match revenue: 2710k Spent on OTF: 324k Spent on CP: 1896k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 375k, 46 total slots used Spent on TP: 1770k Spent on extra TP slots: 350k, 45 total slots used Press revenue: 650k Bonus revenue: 150k* Spent on trades: 900k* (*approximate figure as I can't remember exact amount of the trade for eventual Cup Final MVP Peter from ASM. Somewhere in the 800-900k range as I added into the total bonus/etc column on my spreadsheet as I didn't have a separate trade column and needed the numbers to all come out. Total revenue from "all bonuses - spent on trades" ended up at -750k for WRR) Spent on home bonus: 30k Shield Home Defense revenue: 40k Captain's Bonus CP received: 10 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
TUC Starting cash: 2270k Ending cash: 1825k Total spent: 2758k Total income: 2313k Match revenue: 1963k Spent on CP: 1074k Spent on extra CP slots: 300k, 25 total slots used Spent on TP: 1074k Spent on extra TP slots: 275k, 27 total slots used Bonus revenue: 350k Spent on Home Bonus: 35k Captain's Bonus CP received: 2 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
SCO Starting cash: 2776k Ending cash: 481k Total spent: 5169k Total income: 2874k Match revenue: 2544k Spent on CP: 1490k Spent on extra CP slots: 275k, 35 total slots used Spent on TP: 2589k Spent on extra TP slots: 650k, 53 total slots used Press revenue: 40k Bonus revenue: 150k Fines: 5k Spent on home bonus: 160k Shield Home Defense revenue: 140k Captain's Bonus CP received: 9 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
SAT Starting cash: 1648k Ending cash: 241k Total spent: 4977k Total income: 3570k Match revenue: 2345k Spent on CP: 2112k Spent on extra CP slots: 375k, 37 total slots used Spent on TP: 2040k Spent on extra TP slots: 450k, 40 total slots used Press revenue: 500k Bonus revenue (awards and NMR-replacement bonus): 725k Captain's Bonus CP received: 7 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
PEX Starting cash: 2142k Ending cash: 1534k Total spent: 3253k Total income: 2645k Match revenue: 2075k Spent on CP: 946k Spent on extra CP slots: 175k, 23 total slots used Spent on TP: 1632k Spent on extra TP slots: 500k, 46 total slots used Press revenue: 520k Bonus revenue: 50k Captain's Bonus CP received: 1 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
OLY Starting cash: 2761k Ending cash: 754k Total spent: 5268k Total income: 3261k Match revenue: 2501k Spent on OTF: 324k Spent on CP: 1794k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 250k, 41 slots used total Spent on TP: 2370k Spent on extra TP slots: 500k, 50 slots used total Press revenue: 440k Bonus revenue: 300k Home bonus spent: 30k Shield Home Defense revenue: 20k Captain's Bonus CP received: 5 |
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ODD Starting cash: 3162k Ending cash: 1855k Total spent: 4391k Total income: 3084k Match revenue: 2354k Spent on OTF: 420k Spent on CP: 1288k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 100k, 34 total slots used Spent on TP: 2133k Spent on extra TP slots: 450k, 49 total slots used Press revenue: 480k Bonus revenue: 250k Captain's Bonus CP received: 8 |
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MLB Starting cash: 2725k Ending cash: 1119k Total spent: 4511k Total income: 2905k Match revenue: 2390k Spent on OTF: 324k Spent on CP: 1210k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 200k, 26 total slots used Spent on TP: 2057k Spent on extra TP slots: 500k, 48 total slots used Press revenue: 510k Bonus revenue: 225k Fines: 220k Captain's Bonus CP received: 4 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
LSD Starting cash: 2707k Ending cash: 924k Total spent: 5065k Total income: 3282k Match revenue: 2572k Spent on CP: 2206k Spent on extra CP slots: 225k, 40 total slots used Spent on TP: 2184k Spent on extra TP slots: 250k, 40 total slots used Press revenue: 560k Bonus revenue: 150k Fines: 200k Captain's Bonus CP received: 10 Bowls Won: 1! Congrats, Rob. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
KM Starting cash: 1991k Ending cash: 1369k Total spent: 3503k Total income: 2881k Match revenue: 2106k Spent on OTF: 180k Spent on CP: 1604k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 250k, 37 total slots used Spent on TP: 1344k Spent on extra TP slots: 125k, 36 total slots used Press revenue: 650k Bonus revenue: 125k Captain's Bonus CP received: 2 |
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HOB Starting cash: 3452k Ending cash: 444k Total spent: 6815k Total income: 3807k Match revenue: 2657k Spent on OTF: 648k Spent on CP: 2514k Spent on extra CP/OTF slots: 600k, 55 total slots used Spent on TP: 2568k Spent on extra TP slots: 475k, 50 total slots used Press revenue: 650k Bonus revenue: 500k Home bonus spent: 10k Captain's Bonus CP received: 9 |
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GM Starting cash: 3460k Ending cash: 1225k Total spent: 5632k Total income: 3397k Match revenue: 2692k Spent on CP: 2478k Spent on extra CP slots: 450k, 48 total CP slots used Spent on TP: 2154k Spent on extra TP slots: 450k, 48 total TP slots used Press revenue: 230k Bonus revenue: 375k Fines: 100k Captain's Bonus CP received: 9 |
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DVV Starting cash: 3266k Ending cash: 2533k Total spent: 4072k Total income: 3339k Match revenue: 2604k Spent on CP: 1678k Spent on extra CP slots: 125k, 28 total slots used Spent on TP: 1854k Spent on extra TP slots: 300k, 38 total slots used Press revenue: 370k Bonus revenue: 150k Fines: 115k Shield Home Defense Revenue: 100k Captain's Bonus CP received: 8 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
CUB Starting cash: 2226k Ending cash: 1221k Total spent: 3570k Total income: 2565k Match revenue: 2415k Spent on CP: 914k Spent on extra CP slots: 250k, 25 CP slots used total Spent on TP: 1731k Spent on extra TP slots: 675k, 52 TP slots used total Bonus revenue: 150k Captain's bonus CP received: 4 |
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ASM Starting cash: 2602k Ending cash: 1876k Total spent: 4911k Total income: 4185k Total match revenue: 2160k Spent on OTF: 240k Spent on CP: 1722k Spent on extra CP: 425k, 41 total CP slots Spent on TP: 2049k Spent on extra TP: 475k, 44 total TP slots Press revenue: 550k Bonus revenue (awards & NMR & trades): 1475k Captain's Points received: 3 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
AA Starting cash: 2789k Ending cash: 575k Total spent: 5296k Total Income: 3082k Total match revenue: 2412k Spent on OTF: 2412 Spent on CP: 1430k Spent on extra CP slots: 175k, 35 total CP slots used Spent on TP: 2442k Spent on extra TP slots: 825k, 60 total TP slots used Press revenue: 420k Bonus revenue: 250k Spent on home bonus: 100k Captain's Bonus CP received: 7 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
By the Numbers The above posts are for every team, so those of you who weren't so diligent in tracking expenses can see where all the money came from and went this season. You can also compare to every other team this way and see how this shift from CP/TP to cash expenses is playing out. Differences in match revenue due to morale and getting up to two extra playoff matches accounts for much of the discrepancy. The lowest match income was TUC with 1963. Highest was WRR with 2710. Press also made a difference as there was up to 650k available. Some hit that mark, some hit 0. These figures include all bonuses for NMR-replacement managers (such as AA, SAT, ASM) and end of season awards. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
No moans here Yeah, it was a tad bit of injustice to rail against, though mostly in fun. Realistically, having a GK who topped out at 20 and my #2 as a rookie meant we really did have an atrocious net-minding duo. Kudos to Mickey Mouse for escaping the horror and finding a spot on a team that made the Cup Final. As much as I like moaning poor luck and unfair programming, our GK's were far and away the worst in the league this season and the record will stand for good reason. Fortunately, with the conclusion of yesterday's matches, we're tied to first place again! Everyone is 0-0-0 and my goalies haven't let a shot past them yet. It's always sunny here in Kirksville, even when it's raining PK goals... |
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Re: Confirmed Thanks, Kevin. Okay, I'll have to track down that bit of code and add penalties to shots faced for GKs. Feel free to start bemoaning your misfortune. :-) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Confirmed on players PK shots/goals Using LSD's David Webster as an example: Webster's only shot and goal in match 30 vs. KM came on a penalty kick. The match report attributes one shot and goal for him that match. In tallying all his other stats from matches 4-33, Webster took 17 shots and scored 10 goals. His final numbers on the LSD page show 11 goals on 18 shots, so the PK shot and goal from match 30 are included in the program's tally for both total shooting records and percentages. I also checked AA's Boffer. He had a PK shot in match 31 that was saved. Tallying up his numbers, this counted as a shot for him for the shown season totals as well. |
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Penalties and Shot counts Reviewing the matches, it looks like shooters get credited with a shot for penalties and the penalties are included in the shot totals for the match. Can someone just double check that for me, please? If that is the case, then GKs should be credited with a Shot Faced, which they currently aren't. See Kevin's earlier sob story. |
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Season 14 Awards Evening
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Well done to Gary Lee for making Team of the Week! |
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Blog Participation Bonus 15 October. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, ODD, PEX, SAT, SCO, WRR. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format.hOw muCh tOO cHsanGE aNotHER maNaGers nAme? WeWaNt tOO cHAgne KeFFinz NamE tOO "dOG LuFFer." |
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Answers You are eligible to change your team and player names for free for next season, Craig. After that it will cost you 20k for team & 5k for player. |
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Answers Thanks Kevin, I very nearly got to the foot of my stairs. You have saved my knees unnecessary wear, thankyou. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Answers My only hesitation in replying: Does this mean that I'm officially an enabler of bad habits now? I try to avoid that in my children. Does my inability to do so in MY playmates make me a hypocrite here? The moral implications of actions within imaginary leagues is ever a tricky subject...
As for answers: If you can't be bothered to go upstairs, perhaps you could be bothered to make two or three mouse clicks? Go the "Admin" link at the top, and then look for the "Rules" header on that page. Click the "read rules now" link and you won't have to leave your comfy chair or frosty beverage behind! |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Good Luck! For all the finalist in the Cup and Bowl... You're very lucky... you won't face us |
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Lazy As per previous posts where laziness has ruled, my inability to leave my seat and make the long trek upstairs to get my hard copy of the FLATNZ rules has won over again with the following questions. Can I change my team name in time for the new season? also, what is the pre/off season schedule? (in terms of recruiting age 0 players etc) Thanks in advance :) |
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Calm I am now calm. Thankyou for your comments chaps. I did consider quitting, but that was an 'in the heat of the moment' thought and I've long since learnt not to listen too closely to those :) I seem to remember reading/hearing somewhere that FLATNZ games couldn't be replayed even if you wanted them to be, so confirmation that this is the case was good to read. The silver lining in this cloud is that I don't have the headache of trying to find a fit starting 11 for the Final as I, pretty much, chose my first team for the Semi. Bring on the new season :) |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
COBBLERS and all that CRAIG ,AS a fellow manager (and a commish) I know how you and Tim must feel. "What the F is going on I sent my lineups in and what do I get"....... it has happened to most of us over the years that these Olmec leagues have been around.....unfortunately there is NO way of replaying the game/s , it is not built in to the game ..the commish has no option but to let the game stand. Does not make you feel any better, so go and kick the cat (not C & C) or take a chill pill and have a few beers. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Feeling bad too Craig, I'm impressed by your restraint on the blog. I've been on the receiving end myself in another league, and it made me feel like giving the whole thing the bowman's salute and quitting. It leaves me feeling bad as the commissioner, as well. CUB and PEX missed an entire session earlier this season due to their orders being sent and not received. It is a reminder to me that it is worth sweating getting the upload thing working. Stuff done on the site doesn't get mislaid by ISPs. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Commisery Craig, This is not meant to be condescending by any means. I have to add that first because reading blog postings always comes without any inflection or tone being able to easily be conveyed in the text. I too have been screwed over by acts of computers or ISPs in the past. Several seasons ago I lost some critical matches heading into the playoffs that cost me home field and likely the victory in a very narrow loss the following session. Orders were sent in plenty of time I thought (18 hours or so) only to see my team go NMR and Tim later explain that due to ISP problems the e-mail didn't arrive until several hours after the matches ran. It was clearly date- and time-stamped well before the deadline. It just got lost in cyberspace for a bit. Must have been a male e-mail and couldn't be bothered to stop and ask for directions. The point of that is to relate that sometimes this stuff happens and to any of us that have played for years, we know your anger and misery at the moment after a long season is undone in a single blow that by all means appears entirely preventable by someone, somewhere. I took my own losses as an admonition to get my lines in earlier. Tim has always been good about sending a "Received. Thanks." e-mail when he gets them with time to spare. If I sent them in and don't have that within 24-36 hours that leaves me with a few options:
1. Send them again. Going NMR when you really didn't is among the worst feelings you can get in these games, because we are powerless to do anything to correct it. Your frustrations are not ignored or taken lightly by Tim, I can assure you of that. The only other advice I can offer is that playing Tim all-aggressive the next season whenever we met worked pretty well for taking out any residual negative feelings really well! I encourage you and every other manager to try it out, even if you don't have those feelings to start with anyway. Try it... you might like it. |
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Not Happy ...oh yes, and I also get to miss out on the extra cash from a final and then winnings(?) should I have got so far. Shafted for doing things right. That's a new one on me. |
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Not Happy Needless to say I am less than happy about submitting a sheet and it not being used. Especially for such an important game. I think the game should be replayed but there'll be no chance of that as it would have happened already if it was going to happen. Not happy at all. |
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no worries Jonathon Guess lineups for the final werent needed after all. Damn cats! |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Is this thing on? Are we on the air? Supper Bowl. Supper Bowl. Supper Bowl. Supper Bowl. Testing. 1. 2. 3. Up the Beagles. It's Cat vs. SAT. For the record, Clyde & Calvin scored very high on the ACT and look forward to scoring well on the SAT.Meow,Clyde & Calvin |
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What? You mean there other matches besides LSD-AA? Who knew? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Just one for now Tim's reminder e-mail indicates only one match due for the 8 playoff teams: Match 32. Finals to be run next week for those who survive. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
How many line-ups ? The deadline reminder said I have to send orders for the semi final. Do I have to make an extra lineup in case, by some miracle, I get to the final? |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Sticking your nose in Feel free to stick away, advice from more experienced and better managers is always welcome. Your right to challenge for playoffs again next season we dont need to improve that much, but to dominate league, as we plan, we need a few players :D |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Sticking my nose in Aside from the obvious need of the rookie GK next season, GM doesn't look to me like a team that lacks either depth or potential. And I am personally delighted that they are playing HOB. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Cash Hmmm still dont really know which strategy is the best.We went with the "pour money into our team and try and finish high in the league"strategy. By finishing 4th i suppose you could really say this has been success but it doesnt really feel like it. Our team is badly aging and will get a lot worse next season. As phil said in the "Clyde & Calvin mock the depth of this roster mascarading as an Alpha team (C&C)." we have absolutely 0 depth. Next season we may take a different path. Should finish the season on around 1200k but this wont be rushed into making star players as it was this season. We really need a shiny new GK next season and a couple of df's and a couple of Fw's and maybe even throw in a couple of mf's so we can playing normal if required. How many bosmans do you get again??? :( |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Cash spent I'll never know is all those extra slots (24 CP and 19 TP for 1075k) will be money well spent or not. It will certainly have helped HOB to the conference championship, and Deco to get 9 captain's bonuses as well as player of the season and the golden boot. Cash-wise that's 300k although 2nd in all would be worth 200k and it was a good team to start with. I think we've already had the Conference award (my spreadsheet says so anyway) but another 200k for awards, 50k (minimum) for press and 79k for gate money means we start next season with a little over 450k. Will that be enough? Well I don't know yet as I haven't planned next season's finances. What I did decide is that there's no real difference between using 43 extra slots this season and 22 this and 21 next. It could be argued that the 6 CP spent on the age 4 players was a waste and that cash and the 150k in slots would be better spent on an extra age 0 next year. All that matters to me is that I can use 31 CP and TP slots next season. If so then I know I made the right decision this season. |
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Playoffs Well thats the lineup in for our game against those pesky river rats. I dont expect much from the game as our top players are on low el after the extra exercusion of making sure we got into the playoffs. In hindsight we could of rested up in the 2nd game as we were guarenteed to be in the playoffs although if we had gone down that route we would be playing HOB with 0% chance of getting to the final so at least this way we have a slender chance. All the best to the teams involved. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Just to clarify Dr KM mentions 6 matches total for teams to spend in. That's total, not per team. 2 matches is the most a single team will get. Yes, penalties don't show as shots taken or faced, but do count as goals. After thinking about it for 10 seconds, I think I like it this way. There are no cash prizes for playoff placings. Just match fees. The Cup & Bowl winners get a bonus to their match earnings for the next season, which is shared with whoever they play. Off the top of my head, I think it works out something like a half share of 125k and 68k over the whole season, with your opponents getting the other half. Or maybe those numbers are your half. Can't remember for sure. I'm think it's in the rules, if anyone ever reads them. |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
SPENDING Kevin you need to provide a public warning, "that Viewing these figures can cause Heart (wallet) problems". Did I really spend that much money during the season .....ooo that hurts ....I have to go and lie down . Nurse......Oxygen .... no cancel that ....wallet....money ,gimmie strength to recover. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Spending update Regular season complete, and only six total matches left to blow your cash in for those teams with playoff aspirations. Here is what we've all spent this season through match 31, with total amount spent this most recent session noted:
HOB 6805 (238)
Points to ponder during the off-season:
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Final Records Update Congrats to Derek for turning on the jets at the end and avoiding nearly every record the TUC was on pace to break at the midway point. TUC's season comes to a close having tied two records:
Most Consecutive Losses - 11 They will join the record books, however they won't be setting any new marks, which has to count for something.
For the other record that was set this season, look to yours truly. Though we are requesting an official query into the rules that are obviously set up by Willy the Rat to make us look bad! Yet, no. Here we sit in the record books with a new all-time low of 27.1%. Apparently, penalty kicks count as goals against, yet not shots against! Two of the three goals we gave up (one each to LSD and AA) were on penalties as we went all-aggressive. Thanks to some odd quirk where the program counts a goal while not the shot, we have set a new record for KM. This is not one we plan on ever coming close to repeating again... |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re: Early Cross/Apprentices So those questions about apprentices? That would be an example of a case of "feel free to ignore my questions, forcing me to get up off my backside, go upstairs, retrieve my printed FLATNZ rules and read the answer for myself." :-) I'll post the draft list after the final. AA's position in the league will be determined by the upcoming match(es). The player allocation is identical each season. Who you get is determined by your finishing position. Historically EC wasn't used in FLATNZ because you could get better area stats playing the same lineup L. With the revamp at the beginning of this season, EC multipliers got made a lot more competitive. The question of building WGs is now much like the one for building SWs. Make a big contribution, but only good for one thing. Neither help a BC team. SW don't contribute to 2:1, so need all DFs to support MF. Need as big MF as possible, so have avoided WGs. Although with the mods.... I might have to revisit that. |
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Early Cross / Apprentices Thanks Steve, so it's a tactic that isn't particularly popular because of the bonuses it gives (or doesn't) but it isn't 'banned' as such. Out of sheer bone idleness I ask the following questions here rather than check the rules...feel free to ignore my questions, forcing me to get up off my backside, go upstairs, retrieve my printed FLATNZ rules and read the answer for myself. When can I sign age 0 players, how much do they cost and what SL do they start with? |
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Blog Participation Bonus 1 October. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, HOB, KM, MLB, ODD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Early Cross Early cross isn't used in FLATNZ? How can this be, it's my most popular tactic. If this is the case why was I not informed early on in the season? If I get disqualified for using a banned tactic I will be most cross |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Early Cross It has always been rare to non-existent since I joined Flatnz, Craig. I think to start with the multipliers were too low (FW at 0.75 and DF OFF at 0.125 I believe), and with having to have 2 wingers and most teams only able to train/coach a few players no one would play it. I would guess that the old KM did when the multipliers were improved. The season I joined we didn't have any wingers and my first season is with the current age 3 players. As you can see I needed a GK and DF that season. The age 2 players the season after are another DF and MA. Both seasons I was in Beta. Last season I decided to go for the 2 WGs and also decided I could also train the SD and the now age 1 MA. It was looking good for early cross this season. And then the rules changed, for the right reasons, and I'm not sure if early cross works for me or not with the 10 OTF, but I'm happy to have 2 WGs because they generate more OFF than a FW. Unfortunately mine need shooting practice. |
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Early Cross Could someone just clarify the following for me please? I seem to remember reading somewhere that Early Cross isn't used in FLATNZ (it may have been in the rules somewhere...) but I see that at least one team uses it..Thanks |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Too late, PEX. Kevin has already circled the dates on the calendar. Once that happens....well...it happens. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Observations Wow! ASM sliced nearly a million off their bank account in one session! If ODD did that, Robin would have a heart attack! Deco is Player of the Year. No-one can catch him. Sometimes it is nice to play for the big spender. Maybe we should start calling him "Steve the Russian"? I'm thinking Eric Staller (OLY) has the Dirty Harry award sewn up, although 8 DP in 2 matches is not impossible. Red card would do it. WRR, who regularly have a GP in single digits, have the 2nd best defensive record in the league. Ha ha ha ha! (This is probably due to having the best Team Save record. Mark the big guns, push the ball to the crappy shooters and let them fire as many as they like. Seems to work. Interesting to know whether that also contributes to our not having such a great attacking record. Probably.) |
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Ancient history Morpheus. In spite of the braggin' words... KM wil be ever be a GIANT in Flatnz. No matter how bad is their present. |
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Playoff Schedule Looking ahead to the playoff schedule, I'm planning on running the semis the week after the next/last session, and the finals the week after that. So semis on (my) 8 Oct, and final on 15 Oct. Don't think that should cause anyone any problems, but if it does, let me know before next session. Also remind that season awards are based on regular season only. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Kick 'em while they're down Ah, such biting remarks from once-noble foes. Your words shall not be forgotten! The league and this team have definitely changed from the days when Morpheus brought fear to every goalie in the league. Some day soon, we hope to recapture a glimpse of that glory. Until then, we'll settle for posting your comments on the bulletin board and circling some rivalry matches for next season. Looking forward to next season already! When you have no hope of taking home the Cup, there is plenty of EL to throw down in a grudge match... ;-) |
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KM who? Did you remember when Morpheus broke every net? Did you remember when KM was unbeatable? No. |
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KM Was it not , that once upon a time that KM were a top team ? Now under new management KM , Kevin Martin they are now a bunch of donkeys? I suppose that is what you get when you get a manager from Hicksvile in the Nowhereland ,somewhere in US of A ? A team of Ants and spiders could do better :) |
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CP/TP order TP first sounds good to me if we're getting a vote. Just in case it ever comes up that someone is trying to get 1 TP per 45 mins in while seasoning a rookie. Otherwise, they would have lost that 45 minutes and will be out a whopping 6k in the deal. For the older guys, it could screw up an EL rotation, however a manager would deserve that if they ended up overdrawing the bank anyway! |
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Press Money & Coaching Order Press money is added first, before the session is run. SL is paid and raised in the order of: OTF CP TP Wondering whether I should move TP in front of CP? Only requires a cut and paste. Thoughts, anyone? |
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9k short? Ages ago I asked in what order money was added to the team because I realised that ending up on 0k might be impossible. When I realised this it was too late as I'd already done all my extra slots. Unfortunately that post and replies are lost in cyberspace. HOB have 136k left and I had planned to use 1 TP on Talbot and Middleton, and 1 CP on Bentley and Xavi in the last two games. I left Xavi right till the end in case injuries or mistakes left me with a few slots short. In the next game I'll spend 118k on Bentley and one of the age 1 players. That leaves me with 18k. Gate money for the match is 93k (94k if rounded up, but I've never checked that) giving us 111k. I need 120k to coach Xavi and the other age 1. So the question of the day is: is press money added before the games are run or after? And if after, and I try to coach and train players when I don't have enough cash, which one gets it? |
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Records Update As we wind down to the final regular season session, there is a good chance of only four new records being set. Unfortunately, none of them are ones to rejoice over. It's mostly a TUC watch in the last two clashes:
Most Losses: 22. TUC is at 21. Fortunately, hope abounds for Derek's squad that has recently shown a lot of life. No team had given up fewer shots and fewer goals than AA heading into last session, and TUC pulled off 2 goals for a great upset victory! That helped them elude other 'least' records. Without anything left to save the EL for, this already tired team can afford to go all-out for another win or two draws and avoid all of these marks. Best of luck to Derek in that regard.
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Spending Update With only two matches left for half the teams and three or four for the others, most of us should be done pouring cash into the rosters. The big exception will of course be ASM, as their ghost manager attempts to right the wrongs that multiple NMR sessions have done on the roster. ASM even managed to clip HOB's prior record of cash spend in one session by a full 10k in the latest matches. Can't break it this time due to only having two matches instead of three, yet still a noble rally late in the season for a team that could have pushed MLB for the last Beta playoff spot had they a consistent hand on the helm this season. For the rest of the league, here you go, with teams listed by total spent this year and most recent session's expenses noted:
HOB 6567 (414) While most of the expenses plays out just like the standings (the teams that spent more are higher up the tables), note DVV and CUB down at 4th and 5th from the bottom. While CUB is having a rough go in Alpha, DVV can still make the Cup playoffs while currently having the most cash of any team. Have to wonder: if they could have been safely into Alpha had they spent a wee bit more earlier this season to bring along the stars faster? Then again, the defending champs aren't dead in the water yet, so perhaps Denis has some long-term plans that he's about to unleash on the rest of us and dominate next season again? |
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Blog Participation Bonus 17 September. The following teams receive 10k: ASM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, SCO, WRR. |
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Least draws Well that didn't take long for us lose the chance of getting that record. A couple of posts ago I was going to comment on the fact that we hadn't had any all season. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Well, we didn't really want that to happen. Perhaps Tim can come along and fix that for us. Our bad. Sorry. Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Longball MFs Ah yes, Jonathan. The beauty of the longball midfielder. When KM was... er... your team, I guess, we would routinely get a player on the Team of the Week from our SL 2 and 3 MFs. Apparently, when you expect the player to do absolutely nothing and they accomplish doing nothing extremely well, they can make the team of the week! All those Normal and Ball Control teams just ask for too much of a MF when they expect them to do things like kick the ball or defend or, *gasp*, actually score. |
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Management error What? LSD are no longer first? Get your act together Mr Andersen. I have previously stated that LSD have the title in the bag. You are making me sound foolish. Oh an congrats to PEX for getting a player into the "team of the week." It must have been a slow week though as I note that one of my 3 SL players managed to make the lineup. |
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Grammar error Having been around programmers quite a bit, I need to correct Rob's grammar. Computer programs don't ever have errors in them. That would imply mistakes by said programmers who wrote said programs. Instead, they often have "unanticipated features," or my personal favorite: "hyperactive sub-routines," as if we would believe that the problem is just that the program is doing what it is supposed to do too well for your computer or user to handle it properly. In this case, I would strongly blame AA and SAT for being hyperactive in their pursuit of wins. If they were only less zealous in that regard I'm sure the table would right itself to LSD standards soon enough. |
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Software error! Tim you might want to check the site out. Must be a programming error. I'm not in first. |
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Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Looks like Clyde & Calvin have their paws firmly gripped around the "most draws" title. Yeah, we'll stick that little bit o' hardware in the cabinet next to the Supper Bowl. |
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Spending update Through the last session, here is what teams have spent to date this season (with most recent session's expenses noted):
HOB 6153 (428) Of note is that the top four spenders last session are the top four teams in Beta. Meanwhile, the tops in Alpha have tapered off as the players max out and the cash dwindles away. With all four Beta contenders still going strong with the coaching and spending, expect a good playoff series from the little pond this season too! |
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Records watch Records that might fall with 5 matches to play:
Most draws: 14. OLY has 9 and needs to draw all 5 to make it. I'm guessing Jason is not going to be playing for all draws, so this one will undoubtedly be gone by next session. Mark your calendars for the "Not-So-Super Bowl" this coming session! KM and TUC clash in what footie critics world-wide are calling "A Sure Sign of the Apocolypse." TUC's league-worst offense comes to Graymalkin Lane to take on the league-worst goalie tandem. If TUC gets a shot off, something has to give, right? Or will Olmec explode as the game gives out its first 'half-goal?' |
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Percent Just thinking out loud here: my spreadsheet tells me what percent of T11 I planned to use (57ish% vs ODD and the reserve goalie - we got what we deserved?, 70% vs OLY and 96% vs WRR) but doesn't take into account OOP, passive players or SL increases in a session. However Olmec obviously does. Would it be possible to have a readout in the match reports, maybe a high and low? Not this season obviously but it might help some managers avoid getting fined. |
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Justice, at last! PEX has a player in the Team of the week. Just about time!!!! Perhaps we're not doing that bad... |
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School Boy Oh my, what a schoolboy error i made! I even bothered to have these lineups in pretty early compared to my usual last minute rush! Cant believe i forget to set the tactic to LB! Oh well at least we are now in contention for the top 4 in alpha - which not a lot of managers would of expected. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Greetings from wonderful Kansas. Please mind the compass, because all directions look the same here. Flat, windy, and it drones on forever. Reminds me of an ex-girlfriend. I'm trying to spend as little money as possible in this alleged "state" so that I'm contributing as little as possible in taxes to the University of Kansas. |
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Undy-ripper! When Richard looks at his stats for the match against OLY, he's going to go, "WTF?", as Jay Patrick Wilkins would say. And then he's going to notice that he neglected to select his match tactic to be Longball. And then the words he's going to say are going to be even more lurid. |
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Blog Participation Bonus 3 September. The following teams receive 10k: HOB, KM, LSD, SAT, WRR. |
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Hmmmmm. 82 Goals against? And certain felines thought this team's DF was suspect. |
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Records Chase Update! Having been away for some time, my old records on the history pages appear sadly in need of updates. So we'll get right on that one with an update of what Regular Season Records might fall this season. Only those records that have even a remote chance of falling will be listed for brevity's sake:
Most Wins: 21 by OLY, season 11
Most Draws: 14 by MLB, season 6
Least Draws: 1 by PEX, season 10 & LSD, season 13
Most Losses: 22 by HAZ, season 10 & LSD, season 12
Most Goals For: 66 by HOB, season 13
Least Goals For: 6 by HAZ, season 9
More Goals Against: 82 by LSD, season 12
Best Goal Differential: +43 by KM, season 11
Worst Goal Differential: -53 by SCM, season 8
Most Points: 104 by OLY, season 11
Least Points: 24 by SAT, season 11
Most DP: 176 by WRR, season 11
Worst Losing Streak: 13 games by HTS, season 1
Best Shot %: 49.5% by GM, season 6
Worst Shot %: 8.5% by SCM, season 8
Best Save %: 82.1% by AVL, season 7
Worst Save %: 29.8% by AVA, season 5 So there are the marks that might still fall this season. Happy hunting or best of luck in desperate avoiding, as the case may be! |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Player suspended? Thanks for the reminder, Rob. We always expect to lose one game per session and you can be sure that if we were going to play WRR first then it wouldn't be a tired squad :-P Not counting Syson, we're 5 EL down in the big players but it's only ODD we play next. And we know Syson will be fully fit for the next two games. 45%, 80%, 100% probably. |
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HOB loss? Why, oh why, couldn't I play him first, instead of last?! |
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HOB loss? With Steve's big WG suspended and a tired roster to start the session, I'll be personally disappointed if you alpha dogs don't hand him a loss or two. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Re: Cash tracker update I am disappointed to see that Kevin has published our expenses for the whole world to see. Does he have no respect for the Data Protection Act? As punishment I reckon KM should automatically lose a random match. How about match 25? |
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Cash tracker update Total team expenditures through match 23, with expenses from the last session noted:
HOB 5725 (375) ASM is the big spender for the session as Graham makes a determined effort to get the team in the best shape possible with most of the season behind us already. SCO a close second as they pour cash into the youth movement to reinforce the 2nd line in a Cup hunt this season and prepare for a strong run next year. Their big push finally sees another team close within 1000k of what HOB has spent so far. Of note also is that TUC would have been the top spender if their orders had all gone through. Multiple CP/TP were left on the table as players subbed off before hitting 45 minutes of playing team each. It appears that Derek is going to put up one heck of a fight to salvage as much as possible from this season. |
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Red Wing update After losing to the Penguins in 7 after taking a 2 game lead, the off season has continued in a similarly disappointing way. Hossa left to go to the rival Blackhawks. Not unexpected with the salary cap barely moving up. Lost two role players in Kopecky and Conklin. No big deal. Then we lost Hudler (young up and coming scorer) to the Russian league, KHL. Samuelsson was the next to go. Not a spectacular player but versitale and dependable. To fill the void management resigned former Red Wings Williams and Bertuzzi. I was glad to see both of them go the first time. Not really liking having them back. Then we signed Eaves. Young player who never fulfilled his potential. All three were cheap with some upside, but overall you can't help but think we moved backwards. The way its supposed to be in a salary cap world I guess. About the only bright spot will be the youth coming up from the minors that could provide some spark. Time will tell. |
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Shield bad I decided it wasn't worth going for the Shield when I had an immediate defence. |
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Blog Participation Bonus 20 August. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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Tired but here Spent yesterday with the youth of our church going to a amusement/water park. Fun day but tiring. Too long of a ride with a busload of kids, no matter how good they are. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Free chickens? Mmmmmm...gots to get us some of those. You just need a pic for a case of little chickees, Tim? Mmmmm...worth the time it takes to pick the yellow fuzz out of your kitty teeth. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Steve 1 & Steve 2 I can see it now. Steve the winner and Steve the runner up. |
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Hmm GM catching us up I see. I better watch out. Then again they are one of the stronger sides. |
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Max Points Used Yes, Craig. 10 Points Max for CP and TP in a season. That includes Captain's Points as well. |
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Max PU Is it 10 CP/TP on one player per season maximum? Thanks |
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Money for nothing and your chicks for free, but 50k for a coach pic is only available once per season. |
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50 for a pic Is there any possibility to receive 50 by any photo? I could send many... my bank needs it |
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ASM coach pic 50k paid to ASM for coach pic. On second thoughts, maybe this should have been a fine? >;-) |
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First post OK a first post from me as I try to figure out the differences between this league and the other Olmec leagues I play in. |
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More Rubishnessnessness Tried to play a suspended player in the first game of session 7. Ooops. My excuse is, other than being a little bit rubbish, I was already in holiday mode when I compiled the sheet....will that wash do you think? Oh yes, on the subject of rubbish - my mugshot. It needs changing. Watch this space... |
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Spending update Cash totals are figured for the first Alpha/Beta session, and GM and WRR take the lead in the post-aging SL surge. They both drop more than one quarter of what they have spent all season in this session, apparently figuring out that HOB's strategy of spending early and then keeping a low to decent balance is what winning in this league will take from here forward. Hard to argue with the teams that are currently topping the tables and T11 lists, so we'll see how it plays out the rest of this season into the next year.
Total spent so far this season with last session's costs noted are: Hopefully Graham will get lines in early so ASM will get back on track, and Derek needs to keep pouring the cash in for TUC to have any hope of success next year. Any more NMR sessions by either team will certainly lead to a full extra year of rebuilding before they have a chance to compete for even the Bowl in this cut-throat league, let alone shooting for Alpha. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Deadline Reminder Tim, did you see what happens when you don't send out a reminder? The entire league went NMR! Oh wait you just forgot to stick the files in the directory hehe :-) |
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Re: Lineups Lineups are in the same format, regardless of which creator you use. All lineups have to be saved to my machine in order to run the matches, so whether you send them in an email or save them on the site is irrelevant. I still have to save/download them to the program directory before running the matches. I've never used the online creator beyond testing that it works; always use LUFC. Others prefer to use the online version, which makes the effort of getting the thing set up worthwhile. :-) |
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Blog Participation Bonus 6 August. The following teams receive 10k: AA, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, ODD, PEX, SAT, SCO, WRR. |
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Line Ups Think i just managed to sneak my lineups in on time, that email was a life/flatnz saver. Ive got an exam on friday and i have to pass it so ive been busy revising - its my excuse anyway, weve had ages to do the lineups yet still i wait till the last minute. Its the same with this exam, known about it for ages but i wait until the last minute to revise. Good luck to all in their respective leagues, SCO were predicted to end up in BETA but we somehow sneaked into ALPHA taking the shield with us. The main aim for rest of the season will be to stop spending soo much and keep hold of the shield - HOB first defence, i dont think its meant to be! |
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LUFC Never used the LUFC until the all star games but i won over 2 legs when i probably should have gotten beat by Steve so maybe using the LUFC is the only chance i have of beating HOB this season. Went back to online today so if he beats me ill know it was all down to the online creator. Should have used LUFC. |
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Online or LUFC? I don't think it matters, Jonathan. I would guess that the online line-up creator just creates the same file as LUFC. The only difference is Tim has to save the files from the e-mails. I started off using the online creator but you can only have one conditional per player. And there have been a couple of times when I wanted a position change and a later substitution. I also find LUFC a lot easier and quicker to use. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Thhhbbbt to you, Robin. Take a look at the table. MLB is sinking like a rock with no hype of recovery. No HOPE of recovery. No hype either. Broken team. Broken spirit. We made the critical error of daring to surprise a league power (HOB) two sessions ago and challenge their league supremacy. We paid the price in EL and have not, cannot, recover. This session will net us zero points and three losses, including one to rival KM, whose trashed out rebuiding effort already surpasses us. Kevin was just in my office giving me the lecture about "embarassing our city" and "shape up or ship out" and "if you can't play the game, perhaps your time would be better spent watching 'Everybody Loves Raymond' reruns." Sigh. |
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McIntosh FINED I expect nothing less than a fine for Supermac who is playing the "dumb cat trick" pretending not to understand "Text here. Use HTML tags to format." Philip .......you are naughty and deserved to be punished ........poor o'l C & C are dumb cats who can not weed or wight .... shame on you ! |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format.Text here. Use HTML tags to format. I miss the online entry for FLATNZ. For whatever reason, I use lineup architect, which is somewhat "online," but if you want to redo your lineups, well, hope you didn't have to go to work today. It's a hassle. For whatever reason, I've never been able to get the Lineup Builder or LUFC to function. It almost makes entering lineups a chore to be avoided. |
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Online Lineups I think in case of a time the team who uses the most HTML in their blogs should be declared the winner :-) Sure it's not something that FIFA would sanction in real life, but FLATNZ is known for its quirky rules. I read below that Kevin is making lineups online? I make them online in other leagues, but in FLATNZ I thought we had to make them with the program. Am I creating extra work for Tim by emailing those comma filled text files? |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. I've always felt that most wins should be the priority tie breaker. That's obviously the minority view.... |
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New tournament Well, bowls is up to begin. So, good luck everybody, except those who play against PEX. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Back to online input While ghosting for ASM, I had to use the lineup creator software because I had no ASM login to the website. Now that Graham is on board (welcome again, Graham!) I can go back to just inputting lines for KM. So now I can do them from work (which of course I wouldn't do if my boss finds and reads this... just saying I "can" do them as in "have the capability to," not as in "I'm doing this during my lunch hour on a state computer") if needed. Anyway, it's a nice feature to have available for those weeks when I haven't taken the time to get things done early. With all the delay over the All-Star break it was a little hard to get back into gear. Opening Beta against SAT as we face all the players that I carefully brought up (when it was the old KM team) only to see the team burned down by neglect of the defense last season and early NMRs this year made it even rougher. Knowing you are going to lose to your old team is not a fun time. Though at least we do face the cats this session! We'll see if they let Phil do the lines so we have a prayer of stealing an undeserved draw. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Nothing important Just 3 lineups, Craig. You know; those things you forgot last time? >;-) |
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Holibobs I'm away next week - I'm assuming that (other than the 5th August deadline) there is nothing really important happening that needs action before I go away? |
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Team of week OK Ive asked this before but how is Zander on team of the week? He has played zero minutes! And for the record I support Dewar's crusade that the Northern team cheated. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Shield. Bad. Quick look at the upcoming Shield fixtures shows SCO with 3 away matches and a home match vs DVV. That doesn't count as a Shield defence because DVV were the ones they took it off, and the rest of us get to have a crack at it first. First Shield defence of the post-conference is against... drum roll, please... HOB!! Talk about harsh! |
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Blog Participation Bonus 23 July. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, ODD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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Conference Awards Previous Conference Winners/Runners Up
After coming 2nd for the last two seasons, GM cracks the top spot again. ($100k) 1st - Southern Conference HOB are the team to beat, and they prove it by taking the top spot in the Southern Conference. ($100k)These two teams will return to defend their conference titles next season. 2nd - Northern Conference CUB drop back a place from last season's breakthrough top spot. ($50k) 2nd - Southern Conference After a nowhere season last season, WRR make a strong showing in Southern to take 2nd place. ($50k) |
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Various admin Didn't hear back from anyone, but the site is back up, so I guess that is what counts! I've updated all the stuff done at my end while I was waiting. I will get to press rewards this afternoon, as I'm about to take the kids to school and then head out to the college to work on assignments. Big thanks to Kevin and Phil on the rankings. They made my part so much easier! In fact the whole mid-season went so much quicker this season, with much of the stuff automated now. I've got intentions for further automation (like a constant update to ranking in team histories - only happens manually at present, unlike points and shooter), sometime when I get to doing all those things I "intend" to do. :-) Welcome to Graham! |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Looking forward... ... to tomorrow morning. Press money, conference awards, aging, schedule, All-Stars and Mid-Season Rankings. That's what I will be doing. :-) |
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Cheers... ..Kevin :) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
All-Stars, for Craig 22 July deadline is the All-Star lineups. They just for fun and a little break in the league season. The players get put on a separate roster and the games have no bearing or impact on the rest of the league. No revenue earned, no CP/TP, no DP carryover into the league, and player EL use is ignored because they create new rosters to use (in essence, a copy of your players - not the ones from your team transferred to a new roster). The All-Star players from each team will return to their teams with the same DP and EL as when they left. Mid-season aging will be the only impact on your team from the All-Star break. As for Alpha/Beta, how that works is that this league splits teams each season based on winning at the midway point. In other leagues, there is a Div 1 and Div 2 (& Div 3, etc.) with promotion and relegation between them. In FLATNZ the teams get all scrambled back together at the start of each season (strong and weak mixed) and duke it out to determine who is better this year. The top 8 teams get put together for the second half, and the bottom 8 teams get put together as well. Once the Alpha/Beta divisions are figured out, there will be a new schedule of 14 more matches (1 each home and away against the other 7 teams in your group). Then the top 4 teams in Alpha have a Playoff for the league Cup. The top 4 teams in Beta play for the Bowl. The Cup winner gets .10 morale boost for next season and any team that wins 3 Cups makes the Hall of Fame. The Bowl winner gets a .05 morale boost for next season. Teams not making either playoff don't play that last session. |
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Games on 22nd What are they please? is it the all star games (in which case, I need submit no sheets as I'm not a top 2 manager). If someone wants to explain the all star stuff please, that would be useful - how and when it's played, effects on players count for next round of league games? (fatigue), I assume no training/coaching takes place....and anything else you wish to add :) - Also, how does the Alpha/Beta thing work - thanks in advance :) |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Mid-season press I've given Kevin some work to do, so that should make him happy. :-) Julia's back, which makes me happy, but with school holidays and her away, I didn't get my usual Thursday slot for league stuff. Spent it preparing Sunday's sermon, actually. So here's a reminder to myself and everyone else that team press and random blog posts will receive the usual pay, come the deadline next week. So I'd better write some. I'm also starting 2nd semester next week, which unfortunately for me means a drive up to Auckland and back each week as my subject isn't available distance. Hopefully in a couple of weeks the family will be settled into a new routine and I can get back into extra FLATNZ stuff. But if it takes a few days to get a response, that'll be why, and just so you're aware that it may take a few days to get a response. :-( |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Down time My stat sheets are growing restless. Too much time without any new input. Looking forward to the post-All Star schedule coming out so we can see who gets next shot at getting some bonus point wins from us. I can almost recall way back in seasons 5 & 6 when Beta was a kinder, gentler competition. This season looks pretty cutthroat with several teams able to put up impressive area stats with their T11. As of yet, we're not one of those. Maybe by this time next year...
So to appease the stat pages while we merrily await the All-Star results and 2nd half competition schedule, here is a random league fact: |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Team of the week. A 3-4-3 line up. No way. If I put a line up like this the godfather will accuse me of 'blowouting'. |
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All-Star Teams Patience, Iago.
Now I guess I'd better hold up my end and get the db set up and roster files out. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
South All Star Jr Where is the squad for the South? |
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All Star Teams
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
All-Star Press That perfidious individual would be me. And I didn't play CA, I played N because I forgot to set my tactic. Something about trying to do rosters, lineups, mid-season aging, groups and what all. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it. Mid-season 12 was the last All-Stars. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
All-Star Press Yeah, Rob. I loved the all-press all-star clashes you and I had a few years running there. Very entertaining matches. I think it all died after AVL retired and my new opponent that last year for vs. KM came out and played 4-3-3 counter and totally destroyed my team because he didn't want to press like he said he would. Nothing like setting up your team to get crushed to kill the entertainment value. Has anyone pressed at all in the two years since then? |
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Normal? What ever happened to 11 players playing agressive and pressing the whole match? lol I loved the 300 OFF. |
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All Star Teams Southern All-Stars HOB Steve Turner 3/37 GK SAT Nomad 3/29 SD MLB Larry Johnson 3/29 SD PEX Pablo Ponce 3/21 DF PEX Gary Carter 2/22 DF MLB Damon Huard 3/27 DF LSD Nick Stoltman 3/29 DF WRR Waipa Rua 2/29 MF ASM Elisha 5/24 MA ASM Caleb 2/29 MA HOB Deco 4/33 MA SAT Peace 4/28 WG LSD Damon Wolfe 4/29 WG ODD Crazy Bill 3/30 FW ODD The Joker 4/30 FW WRR Ben Te Akau 4/34 FW So 4-3-3 Normal, then? ;-) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
All-Star matches Steven, there are two All-star ties. The managers of the Conference winners manage to Seniors and the managers of the runners-up take charge of the Juniors. So that's me versus you and Melo versus Tim. We have to pick 16 players, 2 from each team in our Conference that are age 2 and above. The Juniors pick two from each team aged 0 and 1. Each team also gets an OTF which is the average of their conference (Northern is an eigth under 4.5 and Southern and eigth over 4.5) and a fixed home bonus (it's in the rules, 10 I think). Two games home and away. Each of the 16 players has to play at least 60 minutes over the two matches. I've already picked my players, I was bored a week or so ago and so picked Senior and Junior squads - and they don't need to change. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Spending Update We're halfway through the season and it appears that HOB may actually have to cut back on their spending spree a little bit for at least the next session or two. Having easily outspent anyone else in the league, Steve will be hoping that the current 3 point cushion over 2nd place and higher SL averages due to sinking in over 5000k (5 million on development in half a season?!? Is his real last name Abramovich?) can translate into homefield advantage for the Cup playoffs. The other big news for the session is that TUC found their checkbook finally and clock in as the big spenders for the session. Glad to see Derek getting the top lines up to fighting form. TUC could use the boost as they search for even a draw with any team other than equally-unskilled KM.
Total expenses this season to date (trades excluded), with expenses from last session noted, are: The Alpha/Beta seedings match up very closely with total revenue spent so far this year, with the only exception being AA coming in at 7th in costs and starting as the 2nd seed in Beta. Their NMR probably gets the credit for that as even one more point from the session would have seen them through to Alpha. |
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whoa I am never, repeat never very, very mean. well hardly ever. sometimes. okay thats not the point. I will howeever be very very ornery if I get shafted into Alpha this season. ;-) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
More Wins, and Now Please!?! Since we already have the "fewer losses" tiebreak which if different from every other league, the idea of using "More Wins" as the #2 makes sense with the bonus point system this league uses. A team that actually won an extra match or two should get the nod over one that got several close loss points or blew out weaker teams and got crushed by the big ones. Keeping Goal Difference as #2 works as well. What I don't like is the "Goals For" rule. If you have the same goal difference, then that also means you gave up more goals, so you're not really any better - just better at OFF while the other is better at DEF. Moving "More Wins" ahead of "More Goals" is a good idea in my book. With all that being said, can we make that shift now please? I don't want to see my good friend Rob in Beta. He deserves a shot at the Cup this season and should be rewarded for his early season efforts and upsets. Mostly, he is going to be very, very mean to small and not-so-mighty KM in two matches in the near future. It now appears we are going to be Dragon Chow and Kitty Food this season. At least we won't be Rat Morsels as well, so there is at least one lower rung on the food chain we're avoiding... |
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re: rubbish Good one Craig. I almost went with the NMR tactic as well to slip into Beta. Decided it was too costly so I went with the SL2 GK tactic. (almost backfired. Damn MLB!). To each his own! |
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Rubbish Really sorry all. Missed my sheets this week. I have no excuse. 2 weeks to get them in and I couldn't manage it. Once again, sorry for my crapness. On a lighter note, many thanks for the detailed responses to my cash question, much appreciated. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
All star I know you have kind of explained it in commish comments but can you go over the all star thing please :) |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Re: Various I like using GD to separate tied teams (just because it is what I am used to.) Really I'm not fussed either way. As long as the rule is set before the new season starts it's okay as everyone knows exactly were they stand. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Various That's exactly why he posted it, Robin! I'll leave you to decide which exactly I'm referring to. Made a minor change to the reporting. I have edited the emotive "deemed to have thrown match", which managers seem to take very personally, to "failed to meet min SL requirements". OLY goes through to Alpha, with very mixed emotions, I am sure! I was comparing them and LSD and wondering why LSD hadn't gone through instead. Checked the rules, and after fewest losses (first tie breaker) is GD, then GF. Hence OLY through. But LSD has more wins. Shall I update the rules for next season to make tie breakers read "fewest losses, most wins, GD, GF"? |
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bad trade lol one word Robin. sarcasm! |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
Bad Trade Rob have you been snorting that white stuff again or have you just been asleep? It WAS announced beforehand , a general email was sent out to all , and we all had a chance to top Tim's bid .........but we were all toooooooo scared:-) |
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Blog Participation Bonus 9 July. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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bad trade anyone else have trouble with Tim trading with a team that has a ghost manager? I mean clearly some room for abuse there. Shouldnt that have been announced before hand? Might have aired my concerns given the chance. OR how about an auction type deal where someone else could have increase the bid? lol ;-) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
In-laws That's quite the distance to commute for a wedding. Best wishes and prayers for safe travel. On the subject of new in-laws, I think my wife's parents are sorely wishing that her brothers would get married and go somewhere as far away as Finland. They're 27 & 25, and both still live at home. No steady jobs, and not even girlfriends of significant interest. I've recommended the ultimatum of "You will move out in sixty days or you will find all your stuff moved out for you. Find an apartment and go flip burgers to pay for it while you decide what you want to do with your life." If nothing else, then they would know they only have two months to find themselves a Sugar Momma. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
While the wife 's away My lady is somewhere between here and Finland, on her way to her brother's wedding. Not finding taking care of the kids by myself that big a challenge since I normally do most of the day time stuff with the kids anyway, but it sure is busy!
Trade for Peter has gone through, so now my old man is playing for the team. ;-) We can certainly use the boost going into Alpha! Aside from HOB way off in the distance, the SLs of the likely contenders are very close indeed. Having tea with my parents this evening, so I'd better get myself out the door. |
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ASM - WRR Trade ASM -> WRR DM 3/18 Peter WRR -> ASM 850k |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Blogs Glad to read Kevin's post below, and Steve's post that followed. Okay, I cheated. Kevin's post actually reflects a pre-season conversation that Kevin and I had where he enlightened me on the info contained therein. It didn't help much, unless you consider that MLB would be in last place without the advice. And that's a very real possibility. The real effects of training and coaching will be seen next season, though, to be fair. I must say that I was delighted to see that Steve's policy has room for "mistakes." So, I'm not the only one.... :-) |
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Press sessios (and blog posts) Give us more money...!!!! |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Press sessions My spreadsheet says we've had 5 so far and my cash flow prediction says 13. However I see a flaw in that 2 of those could well be after Alpha has finished. So that's 100k after what could be the final game of my season. I never assume I'll get to the play-offs. So now I have to work on 1 less game (as the gate money isn't added until the match is finished) and 100k less press (certainly 50k less even if we get All Star cash). It could mean a player not getting his final 1 or 2 CP/TP unless we get into the play-offs. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Press Sessions 13 Sessions would include All-Star I think.
1 OP Unless there is a Post-Playoff wrap-up instead. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Press sessions and cash spending I work on 13 press sessions a season, which I think means none for the All-Star matches. We're all playing in the dark a bit, Craig, when it comes to spending. I'm increasingly thinking that starting next season with a balance of ~1000k, then spending the season earnings, might just be the way to go. Which means I can spend my entire current balance by season's end. The tricky bit to work out is that all the post-mid-season spending is going to be more expensive than the pre-mid, since the SLs will be higher (or quickly get that way). I might need to call on Steve & Kevin's help to work out how much extra that actually is. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Expense Report Updated totals on how much each team has spent this season (with last session's costs noted):
1. HOB 4762 (412) It's good to see Derek giving some attention to his top lines in the last session. Looks like HOB, SCO and GM have finally run out of the extra points they were planning on spending and cooled off the check-writing pen for a session. Have to wonder whether or not they'll fire things up after mid-season aging to get all those points out in a hurry too. SAT is making up for lost time and has burned up the bonus cash they received from the NMRs. They're looking far more dangerous each session. If they end up missing Alpha and get to play in Beta the rest of this season we could easily see the development of a new longest winning streak. Also interesting to see the usually miserly Dr. Dewar spending extra cash this last session. Preparing for a 'do or die' session in the last two conference matches perhaps? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Gate Revenue In tracking the amount each team has spent, I've also kept track of total match gate revenue in order to have a static number to check my other total revenue and expenditure amounts against. For the total gate revenue of all teams combined, I show 18,186k through all matches this season. That includes the Origin Powerball matches. So that's 18,186k divided by 16 teams, for 1136.625k per team. Each team has played 15 matches (12 conference, 3 OP) so that's an average of 75.775k per game. I have no idea what number I used to calculate the earlier average. I must have had a typo on the calculator or spreadsheet at some point and failed to double-check my work. Nice catch, Steve. So with that revised number of 75k per match (rounding down for conservative total), that brings the total to 2325k for gate revenue. Add the 550 for press, and you've got 2875k coming in. So instead of 2600 as the best guess cap for how much you can safely spend, try 2900 instead. Sorry for the mistake! |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Cash There isn't much I can add to Kevin's post. No matter how long his posts are I always read them all the way through, unlike some blogs/journals on other leagues I've played in. Planning: I always do the same, whether it's TP, CP or cash. In other leagues I'll guess my gate money and decide how much cash I want to end up with and therefore know how much cash I can spend in trades and auctions. I also stop at the 19/29 mid-season or 20/25/30 end-season skill levels, except in three cases.
1. First choice keeper. Steve Turner started at SL 27 and it's worth losing the extra SL dropping by going past 29 as long as you get the 10 points in early, and I used 10 CP in the first 10 games. The extra shots he saves will make all the difference (except I think I've been unlucky). Kevin, you say 63k per match. Is this based on what has happened because I would have thought it was 75k (more in Northern that have both Cup and Bowl winners) although average morale has dropped to .490, probably due to rounding losses. |
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Cash First off, Rob is from Michigan. If you don't have cash, he can also be bribed in octopi small enough to be smuggled into the arena but large enough to be very visible that get thrown onto the ice following hockey matches. Don't ask why, just trust me on this one. Whole octopi are kind of pricy though, and hard to get fresh in Detroit so you're probably better off with just cash anyway. Second, we here at KM figure out what we are going to spend on all our players as the season starts. For example, our 4/19 DM Batman got 2 points before mid-season to peak at 19 (because if I spent another one to get to 20 it would be lost with mid-season aging anyway). After aging, Batman is getting another 4 points to hit the SL 20 barrier (21+ loses another point so that's wasted money in terms of SL surviving into next season). So that will end up costing us a total of 74k (36+38) before aging and 148k (34+36+38+40) after aging for 222k total. I do this for each player I plan on coaching at all. If the total of what I want to do exceeds the cash I have, then I either live with the cash loss or cut back on coaching/training plans for the less-critical areas until I'm back within my budget. If I'm under budget (very unlikely) then I can add some points to key players or bring up another B-list player to boost the T16. Learn the aging caps and stick to them. Adding a CP to a player two matches before the aging deadline is wasting money if it takes them to the next aging level (10,20,30 for mid-season; 11,21,26,31,36 for post-season). Let aging hit and then add the CP. To be clear on this point consider an age 2, SL 19 player. At mid-season aging they will lose 1 SL and be 2/18. If I added a CP to them before aging they would be 2/20. At mid-season agign they also drop to 2/18 though. That CP was wasted if I didn't get several good matches out of it. Another critical factor in cash flow is how much you are spending for extra CP & TP slots. What many teams do is figure out how many CP/TP they are going to spend over the course of the season and plan on using the full amount of free CP/TP slots at one per game each. All of the extra ones then get spent as fast as possible at the start of the season. That way you get the most return on your expense of 25k each. For example, if I know I'm using 36 slots and only 31 are free then I spend to use the other 5 as close to starting the season as possible. I've got the 125k planned on being spent regardless of where I use it in a season, so I burn it fast so I get more matches from the higher SL. The remaining 31 are allocated out at one per match in my order of priority to improve the team. This way does not increase your odds of winning as fast as the "spend it all now" strategy. It does maximize your remaining cash for the season though. One thing to recall is that a team can now hover around 200-400k every session and still be OK with coaching costs. You no longer need to build up a big bank account to buy CP & TP at the start of the season. If you wanted to run your team that way, you can.
Here is what you can count on for cash if you participate in the league fairly well: So that means that you can plan on having 2500-2600k for sure in a season. You can earn more with finishing in the top 2 in conference play, winning the Cup/Bowl, or getting player/team awards for DP, top GK, top shooter, etc. You can't count on those in a season, though they're nice bonuses to pad the bank for next year. If you are spending more than 2600k this season, then you will have to plan on making that up somehow or steal from next year's coffers and plan on spending less next season. Once you have spent all your extra CP/TP slots, stick to the one each per game strategy and your bank will slowly refill as the match and press revenue from the season keep coming in. If you are spending close to what you started the season with, then you should be fine at the end of this year too. If you are going way overboard with CP on players at 30+ SL and TP on 25+ SL youth players, then at some point in the next season or two down the road you will have to plan for a "maintenance" session where you try to keep players at 25 or 29 SL and not push things to allow the bank to catch up. Think of it like a salary purging season for professional sports teams. Beyond all that, the rest is up to personal choice. You can play it slow and safe with the money and build a team over the course of seasons, or you can spend it all now and push for more wins and quick glory before suffering a down year or two to reload for another title push. That's probably enough for this post for now. Feel free to e-mail me if you have some more in-depth questions. |
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Re: Cash / Training I have been coaching and training four players (train two and coach two.) My financial reserves are dropping fast, but that is probably due to the extra cost of coaching/training more that one player. My team was NMR for a while though so I have no choice. I have to make up for lost time. You don't buy CP in this game though so it's not the end of the world if you are nearly broke come the end of the season. I'm no good at budgeting, but if you want to plan ahead look at the match commentary. It tells you how much money you make. Use that along with 50k (press and blog cash) to wok out your income. You can then decide for yourself how much to allocate for training purposes. The rules detail the cost of training which is based on the age and skill of a player. Not sure what Tim's master plan is. The way coaching works in the game means that buidling up star players will be more costly than having a squad of average players. Perhaps this along with the 45% thrown match rule is trying to encourage people not to lose every two matches on purpose (when they are forced to rest the only decent players a team has.) |
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Cash I prefer cash when taking bribes. Will take a check but don't put "bribe" in the memo section like Tim did. I got audited because of that. Next season I hope to be able to take credit card payments. Hope that helps. |
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Cash / Training Ok, talk to me about cash. How many players do you all train/coach per game? how do you (personally) make a profit? Tell me anything you want about cash :) |
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Spain vs USA Congratulations to the U.S for upsetting the Spanish. The Spanish team has a knack of screwing up in competitions. Sure they won the Euro Championships a while ago, but that doesn't count (heck even Greece managed to win the Euros not so long ago.) |
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Sorry Some particular problems last days... I've made them, but have no time to send it... Unbelieving... Sorry, Melo, got yours also and can't send... |
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Blog Participation Bonus 25 June. The following teams receive 10k: ASM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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2-0! Go USA! Unbelievable result vs. Spain in the Confed Cup. I openly admit that I did not see this one coming at all. Now we get to move on to get crushed by Brazil again! |
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Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Dang. I need to get rid of the ol' college photo, too! Many philosophies exist about the financial tactics of the teams in FLATNZ. They are as varied as the storied managers themselves. None more mundane than the tactics of Clyde & Calvin, though. If we see an opportunity to coach or train, we throw money at it. We're pretty stingy, though, as cats go, so we don't throw too much of it around. It's the economy, stupid. We're in the middle of a major community theatre production, so we'll have to make do with whatever lineups we happen to send in. Sorry to be so half-hearted...by mid-season we vow to learn the new rules. |
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LSD coach pic 50k added to LSD for Rob finally letting go of college. It's over, man. |
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Duplicate names I've had this problem in my league, and solve it adding an (II) or (III) after the name. So if you want to trade a player to a team who already have a player with the same name you don't have problems than when you want to make a line up. |
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Team of the Week honors Tim Zander is thrilled he got on the team of the week list. He only wishes he had actually played in a match. |
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LOL $20 as I suspected! |
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Young Rob By the way, Rob, I've got 50k waiting for a photo of you that is less than 10 years old. ;-) |
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New Rule The DAC (Dictators Are Cunning) Rule is now in place. Expansion teams may not trade until their roster has been entered into the database. (This doesn't affect trading draft picks. You can still trade them in advance of naming and position.) If you're making an expansion roster and you're going to trade, you can send me a trade notice, but I will enter the expansion team first, then process the trade. Let the other manager choose the name & position if that's part of the condition, but the expansion roster player has to start on the expansion roster. Skipping that step appears to be bad for me. |
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Goodness me Well it is nice to see that people are regularly checking the blog. The first sign of shadyness and the posts get busy. Let me just rub the sleep out of my eyes. From Season 12 Info (what I send out to get you all ready to set up for the season): The rosters at the end, however, appear to have Augusto Pinochet at GM and "Pinochet" at LSD. I would guess that this was because Rob did his trades before sending in his expansion team roster, and as I was moving things manually, I failed to remove Augusto fromt the GM roster. You may remember a certain 900k bonus a few weeks ago. Since this happened at the beginning of Season 12, well done to the super sleuths, but I plan to do nothing about it. If GM couldn't win the Cup even with that kind of help, there's nothing more I can do for them. |
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pinochet As LSD I made several trades prior to OP. Thats why it doesnt match the expansion roster. I destinctly remember a near reprimand from Tim for trading before I had even named the players. One of those trades involve GM and 2/16 DF Pinochet. Still confused and waiting for Tim to awaken and clear this up. ;-) |
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Pinochet AVL went off to the Hall of Fame at the end of Season 11 to be replaced by Lake Superior Dragons. Pinochet is listed as a 2/16 DF before the first Origin Powerball game in Season 12. Augusto Pinochet was already at GM, also 2/16, signed in the Season 10 draft. Have the Expansion team rules changed? LSD's squad for the start of Season 12 doesn't match what is in the most recent version of the rules. |
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re Multiple players lol If your going to be a dictator, be a damn good one I guess. Multiple player names arent unusual because invariably a rookie gets a name that was used already, but here you have two age 4 players from the same team. Strange. |
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Multiple players While I'm not sure who is the original, LSD does currently have Pinochet and KM has Augusto Pinochet. Apparently in GM's list of dictators and political tyrants Pinochet was outstanding enough to make the cut twice. Why do I get the feeling that this is not a good thing... |
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Dictator x 2 If I recall correctly, a few years ago Spain wanted Pinochet to stand trial for killing Spanish citizens when he was in charge of Chile. Maybe that's why Pinochet and a lookalike ended up in Gibraltar. |
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Multiple Pinochets? Funny because GM traded me a Pinochet from a few years back and he's age 4. Did he rename someone Pinochet after my trade? Or did he slip the commish 20 bucks to conveniently forget to remove him from his roster? |
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Km - GM trade KM -> GM: 4/16 GK Mickey Mouse + 25k |
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Cash Flow Thanks for the answers guys - might be important come the last two games of the season. Bulking up? It's like this, Rob. I started season 13 with 3235k, bought 37 CP (1350k), 38 TP (1640k) used 15 extra slots (375k) and finished the season with 3452k (thanks to press, gate money, and awards). The plan was to buy 40 CP and 31 TP (using CP on OTF for no extra slots) and spend the other 800k or so on extra CP and/or TP that would cost 250-400k in extra slots. A successful side nees to finish with 3000k to keep playing at the top. But what's the point of finishing with 3000k now? My plan is to use one CP and one TP slot for the rest of the season. Assuming I've done the maths right I think I'll be OK. As long as you use at least 1 CP and 1 TP every game, and you coach and train the right players then any extra slots used aren't wasted, cash in the bank is. It could well be that my method is the wrong one for a couple of reasons: |
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Oh, yeah Go Red Wings. |
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Cash flow order I add the press bonus before running the matches. |
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Team Expenses Kevin's article on finances is an accountant's wet dream and also my worst nightmare. Just look at how much cash I blew in one go! My team hasn't been coached for many games so I have to make up for lost time. The thing is that my gate income of 50k barely covers the training/coaching of an extra player. At this rate I will bankrupt the team and see my squad reduced to a bunch of 1 SL Instanbul like defenders. Oh how I wish I was a politician. If I was I could just claim my coaching costs as a legitimate expense and snag a free duck Island in the process! |
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RED WING UPDATE Stanley Cup finals Game 7 tonight! I either get drunk celebrating or I drown my sorrows! |
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Lies, damn lies and statistics Kevin glosses over the fact I outspent 7 teams last session. Not really trying to keep my SL low to stay in Beta. To be honest I figured I was a lock for Beta. I will admit I was somewhat confused as to how this new system will work out so my plan was to just spend normally (no extra slots) for a few sessions and go from there. Didn't help when I tried to TP the age 2+ and CP the younguns. ;-). But I have to ask, apart from the initial boost of spending your reserves and bulking up, isnt it counter productive to waste money on the extra slots? |
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Cash flow chart order Tim will have to confirm this since he's played with this version of Olmec and it differs in many respects from the version I have experience with from MSWL (prior to that league going online). In addition to the five cash variables Steve lists (CP/TP, extra slots, gate, 45% fine, press) there are also Home Bonus costs, Shield Match revenue, and Misc. Bonus cash (blog pic, logo, etc.) in FLATNZ. I believe the order runs as follows for each session:
1. Starting cash balance I am fairly certain that the program will NOT allow a team to go into a negative bank balance at any time. Orders attempting to do so will be ignored. CP/TP costs & the extra slot costs come out before the match revenue is added back in (in the old program at least) so you cannot spend what you are planning on getting and hoping it balances out later. Bank balances are updated with match revenue after each match though, so you can guess what you'll earn in the first match of a session and spend a little below that in the second or third match if you're careful and/or desperate and daring. Press, Shield Match, Misc. bonuses etc. were added manually in the past after the session was complete, so none of those funds will be available for usage until the following session. That's how it used to work, so Tim can jump in and tell us what changed in his 'Frankensteined' version if the cash flow order has been altered as well. |
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Cash spending update Latest figures on how much each team has spent this season, updated through the end of Session 4, Matches 10-12. Shown below is the total amount spent, with the amount spent just in the last session noted in parentheses.
HOB 4350 (562) HOB remains atop the cash flow board for the 3rd straight session, and appears unlikely to give up that spot this season unless someone else jumps on the "spend it all early" bandwagon. As noted in prior postings, differing philosophies can develop with the shift in resource usage. Some of us are spending only what we had to play with from last season's end total, and making sure to use every available free CP and TP slot all season long to do so. Others are gearing up for a Cup run early and using all resources to compile a killer T11 as fast as possible. They will have to start spending only what they earn from session to session soon at current pace, or possibly even match to match! HOB has nearly outspent the bottom 5 teams combined. While SAT was NMR for three sessions and didn't spend anything, TUC's boss Derek stubbornly refuses to even submit orders to train and coach his players (only 3 TP spent this season, with 1 CP coming through the Captain's Bonus and NO CP actually purchased?!?), MLB was NMR for session 1 and is making it up slowly, and KM was just plain broke to start the year and doesn't have much of a T11 to waste cash on anyway, all of that does not explain LSD's totals. Currently in 2nd in his conference, Rob has spent less so far than three others teams have in one session alone. I'm guessing this is a deliberate attempt on his part to keep his SL down for as long as possible to avoid getting into Alpha this season. So far, his plan appears to be failing him miserably! Though with SAT coming alive and MLB showing a decent pulse in their last two sessions, can one of them overtake him along with WRR and ODD to save his season from ending in considerable pain and lots of "L's" for the record books? Or will it get even worse and he'll end up in 5th in the South only to have DVV, SCO, OLY, and AA all continue to beat up each other and finish ahead of three of them to fall into Alpha anyway? Poor Rob. He appears doomed for Alpha if he does any better than a close loss in each of the remaining conference matches. It could be time to bust out the check book for some extra CP in the ranks and let next season's coffers take care of themselves... |
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SAT coach pic 50k added for the sinister man. |
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Blog participation bonus 11 June. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, ODD, PEX, SAT, WRR. |
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Cash flow question I've pretty much decided how much I'm spending this season but just in case I make a few mistakes (made one already) I was curious about one thing. What order do all the cash adjustments go? And will the software let you go below 0k? There's five cash adjustments
1. CP and TP usage I'm not planning on hitting 0k but if I was close and thought CP or TP wouldn't be used then I'd change my orders to spend less that game. |
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Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Still figuring stuff out here. Two things on the blowout rule. YES--MLB is responsible for the rule. In the inaugural season of MSWL, MLB generally two strong lineups to one weak one...but we only had one GK, and it was a weak backup at that. Our starter was lost early in the season for the entire season with a broken leg. We really had little say in the matter. Our only recourse was to really get whipped in conceding one game, and take it to the opposition in the other...with our mediocre starting GK. Clyde and Calvin were obviously very smart kittens at the time. We nicked out Al Seller's MP team and Jeff Bagby's SLA team for the title when MP and SLA battled to a draw (SLA missed a PK in injury time). A win would have given either team the title. So MLB snakes the championship. Unfortunately, the powers that be (Al Sellers and Jeff Bagby) were dismayed at the result and demanded a rule change. Clyde & Calvin suggested that the problem would be averted in the future if a rule were passed prohibiting starting GK's from suffering season-long injuries...but, alas, they opted to adopt the blowout rule instead. Sigh. We have no problem with the 45% rule. We play 45% and routinely get blown out as it is... Meow, Clyde & Calvin |
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Re Istanbul LOL :-D |
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Foolish Ignore me. Yes there are. It's on the home page.... |
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Games? Stupid question time - are there games due tomorrow? |
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Istanbul Agop Anger My 4:1 DF has been angered by the recent adiminstrator posting. It amounts to SL discrimination. Why is he put under so much pressure to behave in terms of blowout fines whilst a 20+ player can get sent off knowing his actions won't harm the team. If a 4:1 defender wants to run on the pitch with an axe and subsequently gets sent off that is punishment enough surely. |
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Re sending offs and blowouts If you get a 20+ sent off and that drops you below 45%, I will almost certainly reimburse the fine. If you get a 5SL player sent off and drop below, I will almost certainly not. :-) |
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Rule changes over the years Two other rule changes that aren't Phil's fault are the extra 25k that most (all?) leagues give to Division One games and the 10 PU rule. It was found in MSWL that at least one manager would deliberately avoid promotion as it gave him an advantage. He had a strong side that would win most games, do well in the MSWL Cup, get a good morale and therefore increased gate money. Another manager realised that instead of spreading CP around the team, all he needed was a super-keeper and super-forward. I don't know what levels he reached but imagine having an SL 50 GK and FW, even if they could only play 60 minutes per game. So now you can't give more than 10 CP or TP to a player over a season. The blowout rule is 6-0 in most leagues and used to be 5-0. The 50% rule was introduced because some teams would lose by 5 or 6 goals even when they were not that weak and got unlucky, or if they were simply playing a very strong side and couldn't so anything about it even playing 6-3-1 stall. In one league I played virtually T11, had the stronger side as well as a great GK, and still lost 5-0. The Flatnz rule is just an extension in which the score doesn't matter - in other words you can't say you were unlucky, well unless you get a player sent off early but then you don't have to play too close to 45% do you? |
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Wrath of the Cats! My source comes Phil himself. On the SESL blog he said "We might as well also acknowledge that MLB in MSWL (season 1) is responsible for the implementation of the blowout rule." Don't worry about my sleeping habits. I always nod off with all six eyes open. |
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Jonathan!!!!! How could you cast such a slur on Supermac- quote- "blowouts got introduced because Phil McIntosh would routinely lose matches"...........ouch, I do not know where you heard that from , probably Kevin Martin as he is always trying to put Phil down.:-). Beware the wrath of the cats! Sleep with one eye open from now on |
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Blowout Banter If the purpose of the blowout rule is to stop weak lineups I don't understand why in other leagues you have to lose 7-0 to get punished. Even if you select a weak team you can avoid a severe beating just by playing defensive. In SESL a manager successfully appealed a blowout. His team went below 50% due to an early sending off. Aside from droping the team's total SL, losing the said player wrecked the lineup (in terms of 2:1 position balance) which resulted in the huge loss. I read in another league that blowouts got introduced because Phil McIntosh would routinely lose matches to rest his top eleven. In a sense he is to blame for all this chaos. Anyone who suffers a blowout fine should consider sueing him for damages. If he defends himself you will surely win the case. |
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Thrown matches - another comment There's a very good manager in another league that performs wonders with his team. However he takes chances with the blow-out rule (as it's called there). As most here know in Olmec it's 50% of the whole squad over the 90 minutes and you also have to lose by six goals to be fined. In their 7th, 10th, 13th, 16th, 19th, 23rd, maybe 25th, 28th, 31st and 34th games they played 41% or lower but were lucky to only receive two fines. |
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AA coach pic 50k added to bank for pretty pickie. |
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bonus points point for scoring 3 or more goals and point for losing by one. my favorite is to lose 4-3 and still garner two points. |
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What Do Points Make? Could someone kindly run through the points system please? I understand the 4pts for a win, 2pts for a draw...but could do with a pointer on the rest. Thanks! |
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Mugshot ....has been sent to Tim. Anyone who is squeamish should use dark glasses when checking the blog :) |
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speaking of bribes... whats your price for, say a 50% lineup? |
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two top teams? whoa there Jonathon, step away from the keyboard before someone gets hurt. Not everything is as it seems. Check out our average SL. We're one of the two worst teams. I happen to be near the top of the table because Ive beeen able to bribe a few managers. Nothing less, nothing more. |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Lineups Response Thank you for the quick reply. I think I will make my team selections later tonight. From the looks of things I have to face the top two. Talk about a baptism of fire. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Lineup orders Every session will have 3 matches except three over the course of the whole season. Since there are 14 matches in the conference and then post-conference sessions (8 teams, play the other 7 twice each, home/away), there will be 4 sessions of 3 matches and then one session of just 2 matches. It will be the final session before the Mid-Season, the final session before the Playoffs, and then the Playoff games themselves if you make them.
To make things even simpler for you, this coming session due on June 10th will have 3 matches (10-12), followed by another 3-match session on June 24th (13-15) and then the 2-match one on July 8th (16-17). And welcome to the league! |
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![]() Spurs Auckland Toons Jonathan Moss |
Lineup Question I hear that if I ask a question here I get money so riddle me this. When the deadline comes I have to make teams for three matches? Looking at the results file I think I see people involved in three matches? Also I notice there are 31 matches so we cannot possibly play three matches all the time. How do I find out when I have to make two or four teams for a deadline? |
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AA logo updated 50k added to team bank. Now just waiting on the self-portrait. :-) |
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Successful work, but still nothing to show Hi chapses. After 3 hrs of successful messing around with the site, you will notice exactly zero difference. :-) HOWever, I have (hopefully) removed all those annoying glitches that led to things like new managers still posting with old managers' names, and new team names not being able to log in. So, fingers crossed, no further glitches. In that area. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
GM 45% mark GM T11 average is 22.09, so 45% of total T11 is 22.09 x 11 x 0.45 = 109.3455. That's the low tide mark to stay above for next session. As you coach it will gradually increase. You can meet that with your T11 4 best players or 6 worst, let alone the other 7(5) on the field. It really isn't a very hard target to meet. LUFC gives you totals, so it is easy to tell if you've got enough on the field. Online one doesn't yet. I'm struggling to get decent programming time in, and I've wasted hours on that damn upload option. I hope to get on to some more stuff now that I've handed in my last assignment for this semester, but giving totals on the online creator is under all the things that will make my life easier as a commissioner. >:-) |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
45% I think the main problem i have with the rule is that i have absolutly no idea if im going to be under it (through my own ignorance probably). In other olmec games at least i know that stats im putting out so can get a good feel for if im over 50% but here there isnt that feature so it makes it more difficult to plan your session. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
For the record I like the "thrown match" rule. We haven't gone as low as 45% (not sure what the lowest has been) and even though we're easily the strongest side, it doesn't mean we're the strongest every game. LSD were better than us in the last session. I'm not saying 45% of T11 is the best idea, but that is what it is so live with it. I also agree that the team doesn't have to lose and lose heavily. In SESL I see a lot of less than 40% squads and some managers get away with it and some don't. In other words it's down to luck whether you get a 120k fine. In Flatnz it's down to the manager. If anyone wants a spreadsheet that works out if you're under 45% then let me know and I'll see what I can come up with. It will need some manual inputting from you though. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Throw 'em my way Should anyone care to try out the 45% rule against KM (you know, just to check the program again to make sure it works right), we'll figure out how to pay your 100k fine for you if it nets us our first win of the season! Yes, we're that desperate. And that pathetic. |
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Thrown match (addendum) If it makes people feel better, we can rename it "The 45% Rule", which it is, rather than "The Thrown Match Penalty" which apparently makes managers feel unjustly accused of some deep wickedness. The point is to stop the "2 star, 1 trash" approach to lineups, and it works. |
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Thrown match Yes, Steve, as effective SL, if you play aggressive or passive, that will determine the number used. Robin, it ain't changing. Cope. If you want a long winded explanation, I'll send you the email that new managers get. Since you've been in FLATNZ since the beginning, and so has the rule, it beats me why you're complaining about this now. |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
Thrown Matches ? Steve , you blew my brains out with this question , but at 3am in the morning after a great deal of RUM there was not much to blow out. To be honest I can't answer your question , but I would question the thrown matches rule. It does not specify if the team LOST ? ........surely if the 45% team got a draw that is not a thrown match?... what if a 45% team wins against a 46% team .....what then ........doh ! I think we need to be more careful with this rule and possibly allow a manager who suffers a penalty , a chance to appeal , citing circumstances such as injuries low EL etc ... |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Thrown match question. We should all know by now that if you play less than 45% of your T11 at any time then you get a 100k fine. We might not all know that, unlike SESL/MSWL/etc, if your SL 25 MF plays at DF then his Effective SL is 20 and it's this 20 rather than 25 that is used to see if you have enough SL. What I don't know, and the question is, if a player plays aggressive is it the 115% value that is used? And 80% for passive? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Right you are! Oh that's sad. Completely forgot about manager changes since I left the league and returned. TUC's original manager has been departed from them for two seasons now, hasn't he? Then again, maybe a change of pace could catch Derek's attention and get TUC stirred up for this session's matches? Though we do play them in match 12, so perhaps we'll wait one more session before trying too hard on that account... |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Spanish for TUC I don't think Derek Purvis would need somebody with an strong Spanish... He can read English very well, I presume. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Peanuts add up Yes, getting a player to SL 10 will cost very little in the overall scheme. Just remember that the extra slots to get them skilled up cost 25k each so that 15k or 24k you are considering will actually cost 40k or 49k unless your team is already completely CP/TP'd out at the other spots. And then you have to consider whether it is better to have a top shooter or GK at 2 SL higher, or to have two MFs 3-5 SL higher. So we'll sit tight for now and watch ODD to see if their mighty SL 10 MFs led them to the playoffs before we join in the cash-spending craze as well. |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
CP & TP I think I am begining to understand how this works Am I right in thinking it will actually benefit those longball teams with useless MF ? In the past most Longball teams have ignored using CP/TP on MF players with the old cost being approx 50k and they play little part -but do they? But as I see it my 0/4 & 1/3 are going to cost peanuts to get them up to 10sl , where they will make some contribution to the team.so is this the way forward ......beware my 10SL MF's.
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Bi-weekly cash tracker Official Mr. Moneybags update following Session 3 (matches 7-9). First value is total K spent so far this season. Value following is what was spent in Session 3.
HOB 3788 (1368) SAT should pick up the pace soon now that they won't be left to languish into nothing each week. On the scary end of things, HOB has almost spent more cash in three sessions than twice the starting amount that KM had before OP started. Even worse, they still have more cash to spend next session. And for TUC, can someone with a better grasp of Spanish make sure that he understands the coaching/training rules? He used only one CP last session and no TP. Hate to see a team suffer because of a misunderstanding. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re CP/TP Well, 2 players, as long as one is age 2+ and the other isn't. :-) But why would I want to make life easy for you, Mike? This is the NZ mafia; remember? |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
CP/TP issue The rules are bad. Bad. Bad. We were fined because of we want to make this league better... How can we improve if we have no better players? I propose... no extra costs if we train more than 1 player. And... increase the slots to train up to 11!!!!! |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog participation bonus 28 May. The following teams receive 10k: AA, ASM, DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, ODD, PEX, WRR. |
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favorite cliche to hate its that "giving 110%" If you think your giving 100% and you have more to give, then your not giving 100%. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here So....what team has Mr. Dowson? |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Title here Text here. Use HTML tags to format. Clyde & Calvin are accusing Phil of trading all CP/TP to Dave Dowson. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
We Give More Than 110%! It's not just a cliche, folks! We can prove it. I believe the last vestige of the crash from the SCO-KM match last session is still in existence. KM's total percentage as added up in the Stats page under team tactics comes out to 116%. Even accounting for rounding that's a bit high. Likely the extra time as a team was as the phantom opponent for SCO's mystery minutes last session. The alternative is that the official scorers were understandably confused about what KM was doing during the match. We said we were playing "Normal," yet the complete and total lack of offense threw them for a loop and they thought we were still Stalling for that time period. So both got recorded for a while. When even Olmec knows you stink and mocks your scoring ability (or distinct lack thereof), by calling your best offensive effort a "Stall," it's going to be a looooooong season... |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
MLB's CP Dear Phil & Calvin & Clyde,
Thank you for trading all your CP & TP to KM this off-season for one dozen mice (white, still breathing on delivery), two cans of catnip (unopened), a new scratching post, and an unlimited supply of invisible CP & TP which will not show up on your team pages yet can be used in every match for the standard fees (first of each free, rest 25k each up to 3 extra per match). While you may not recall this transaction, it will probably be far more understandable than the new CP/TP system by which all resources come directly from the cash flow. Kevin |
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Speaking of CP/TP Looks like I don't have any!! Am I right to assume it's all been spent and that's it for the season? |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re Meow Kevin, I think the cat is terminal. I recommend a sack, a broom and a bucket of water. You know what to do. |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
Meow Where's my CP/TP? |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
One game to rule them all Steve's analysis is good. However, there is one point which may trump the T17 any day. This league is all about the Cup. The Cup holder won the league and gets the morale bonus. Alpha winner doesn't. 3 Cup wins nets the Hall of Fame. Winning Alpha gets you a nice little certificate (if you printed off the final tables) to hang at home. And in a winner-takes-all nasty throwdown with aggression and pure T11's battling it out, having a great T17 means you get a really good cheering section who can't help you on the pitch. While increasing your odds of making the playoffs, dropping the T11 will hurt your odds of ever winning it. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Apprentices According to the rules, "If a team wants to sign a 0/1 GK/SW/DF/MF/WG/FW at any point in the season, the cost is 100k. Send in a trade note with the players name, and he will be added to your team." |
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![]() Odd Squad Robin Dewar |
SALE Big Bob a 0/4 MF shortly to become a 0/6 MF is up for sale. I have to say that Angie Brown (gets in the showers with the rest of the boys) says Big Bob is not that BIG, but do not let that put you off. ODD are looking for a reasonable DF in exchange , all offers will be considered as long as they are BIG :-)
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
apprentices Can you buy apprentices? |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Re T16 etc Good stuff, Steve. Yeah, that was my impression when I was setting this up, that it will become increasingly useful to move towards more balanced teams, than the pure star and filler approach of the past. Nice to see someone actually work it out in match. I'm an intuitive thinker (rather than systematic), so I tend to find the conclusion, and then work out how I got there. :-) |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
T 16 point 33333 Everyone knows why we get T17 stats. No? Simply put it's the minimum number of players you need to play everyone at normal aggression and avoid going into negative EL. Actually as my headline suggests it's 16 and a third players. 11 players use 66 EL in a game. 16 players gain 64 EL after the game. So you need one more player to play 90 minutes every three games (trust me, I got an A at A level pure and applied maths). My 17th player varies from league to league. If I have two powerful goalkeepers but only five good defenders, then my 2nd keeper might be my 6th best defender - at sweeper. He will play one game in three in goal and one game at sweeper on average. My 17th best player will probably be a MF that plays just one game in three. If my 2nd goalkeeper is weak, as at Hallcroft, then he'll be the 17th player that only plays one game in three. My current T17 consists of an SL 3 and SL 4 MF. They're useless, right? Well for a start they have to play 180 minutes each every three games and, being midfielders, they add to DEF and OFF. To increase Camina's SL will cost just 8k and Sissons will cost 10k. I can get Camina to SL 5 and Sissons to SL 9 and neither will lose anything at mid-season. 88k gets me 7 SL or a 0.41 increase in T17. To get Lee and Puyol to 29 (my current plan) will cost me 116k for just 2 SL in total. Yes, Camina and Sissons would also cost me an extra 125k in extra slots but I would have saved that by stopping the DFs at 27. I can see me having a radical rethink about T11 and T17 in the future. I'll still need a big GK or two, and I think in this longball league it doesn't hurt to have a top SW/SD. And you must have high SL MAs and FWs to get those goals. But with MFs and DFs I think that rather than having 133 SL spread as 28,28,26,21,17,6,4,3 as I have in my best 8 midfielders and defenders, I'll be having them as 17,17,17,17,17,16,16,16. To raise eight players from SL 3 to those SLs coast 3072k in the first instance and 2250k in the second (ignoring ageing and the fact it can't be done in one season). One other advantage is that it'll be harder to accidentally blow a match. Five of those players are in my T11. One disadvantage will mean T11 is lower, dropping from 24.0 to 21.2 and so it might be harder to win those more important games. P.S. I don't think the blog titles like punctuation characters |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Missing Money I thought I had more money too. Then I remembered that I'm married. In all seriousness, Mike, check your e-mail for a detailed list of what you have spent and earned this season. You can check that for where your money has gone. |
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![]() Pehuajo Expos Mike Hernandez |
Nice analysis KM manager has made a great work analyzing the money spent in resources. I think this season is a test one, where managers will test different ways of maximizing the money. But, I don't know if I've made my counts in a wrong way, or the soft is stealing me. I really thought I had more money... |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Spending update For those (like me) who are curious about seeing how the spending is working out this season with the shift in resource management, here is the latest update following Matches 4-6. Each team is listed in order of total cash spent, with the amount spent in the most recent session in parentheses.
HOB 2420 (1562) I'm not sure which is scarier, that HOB & CUB have geared up to start steamrolling the rest of us by spending more than some teams started the season with, or that GM is leading the league in points while not needing to overload right off the start - leaving ample room to get even nastier. Makes a guy want to consider finding eight friends to join this league so Tim can get that "C" league running and many of us can go run and hide there for a season or ten... |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Re to Tim None of my players played agressive. I would understand they all played passive, but none of my players were trained and these arent the lineups i entered. Anyway i will never enter a lineup again online. |
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DVV "NMRs" Re the "NMRs". All 3 lineups were received. What appears to have happened is that you haven't specified an aggression for your players, in which case they default to passive. Re the "I can't find my lineups any more." When I download the lineups from the site I wipe them from the site. I could leave them all on the site, but it will get increasingly painful for me as I have to sort through for each team to find the correct lineups. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
DVV NMR Steve i checked all lineups twice, it showed them normaly, but now they arent nowhere. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
DVV NMR Just a thought, Denis. Did you get the correct match numbers? I've just checked and it let me save a line-up for match 1 again. Check matches 1, 2 and 3 to see if they are what you ordered. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
DVV NMR #2 Btw. i checked now and there seem to be no lineups entered by me. Huh?! |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
DVV NMR??????????? I just want to point out i posted all three lineups and also checked double but i was NMR. How come? |
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![]() FLATNZ Commissioner |
Blog participation bonus Oh, yeah; AA & ASM as well, due to managerless state. |
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Blog participation bonus The following teams receive 10k: DVV, GM, HOB, KM, LSD, MLB, PEX, WRR. |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
TP Cost A minor addition to Kevin's post (boy did we miss him last season). TP cost will jump when the draftees are seasoned. I worked out that it costs you an extra 24k to play an apprentice 4 games at 90 minutes giving him 1 TP per game and then getting the 2 SL jump compared to 8 games at 45 minutes with 1 TP per game - and using 10 TP in both cases. Basically it's an extra 2 SL at 3k per SL for 4 games. Assuming he started at SL 5: 24k might not seem like much but it's an extra slot. There are two downsides however. One is your player takes longer to get to be a useful player, although that will depend where he plays and how weak your side is. My best apprentices are GK and FW. I don't want the GK playing many games at 90 minutes anyway and the FW isn't going to score many goals this season. The other downside is with EL management. Once T17 gets down to an average of 6 EL you don't really want to be wasting EL by playing an EL 10 player for 45 minutes: use 3, gain 4 means 1 EL wasted. |
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![]() DVV Delft Denis Fras |
Changes Wow, many changes here. Hmmm, i hope they are all in favour of DVV. I guess i didnt read my mail well enough that is why i have to apologize for not sending the last two lineups. |
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Title here Wings lost last night, Game 7 Thrusday. Kevin I was at game 5. Great crowd had the Joe rocking. Somehow my son and I managed to convince my wife those tickets were a Mothers Day gift. Yzerman nicknamed Franzen the "Mule" during training camp a few years back. Big and stubborn. Personally I like Franzenstein. (he scored again last night). |
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![]() Missouri Legal Beagles Phil McIntosh |
MLB When does the season start? |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
Coaching costs and Wings Regarding all the questions on the new system. Yes, I am the devil in disguise. Wait until I get caught up on all the site mods I have in mind and can put real time into thinking up more nefarious twists!! >:-D Regarding Wings postings. I'm just bitter because it is only available on pay per view over here. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Hey, Rob Have a friend in Grand Rapids who went to game 5. Had seats through his business just a few rows behind one of the goals. He was ranting about "the mule" online for about 20 minutes before I could even figure out who he was talking about. This is the same Franzen guy who missed games last year because of an aneurism right? That's hockey for you. Guy gets blood pooled up between his brain and skull and gets right back on the ice. Then again, my friend's point of excitement for tonight's match? Not that Detroit might win and close out the Ducks. Oh, no. It's that Darren McCarty got called back up in case the Ducks get too rough. He's dreaming of "a blood-letting" in Anaheim. And this guy works at a desk job as a book editor for Pete's sake! Can't imagine what the steel and auto line workers are like at those games... assuming they can even get in. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Title here Thanks Kevin So in idiots terms (for me) CP = (new SL)*2 TP = (new SL)*3 That looks better |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
TP/CP Thanks Kevin So in idiots terms (for me) CP = (new SL)*2 TP = (new SL)*3 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Tp cost (continuation from below) TP is figured the same as CP, only it costs more. TP cost is (current SL + 1)*3. Not *2. So to raise an age 0 player from SL 7 to SL 8 costs: (7+1)*3, or 24k. Again, just like with CP there are only 28 slots free (one per match) and after that you'll have to pay the 25k fee each for extra ones. Mid-season aging matters for age 1 players who are over SL 19, so keep that in mind when figuring out what SL you want to raise a player to before mid-season.
Most age 0 players start out at low SL, so the costs will be low to begin with. However, they quickly escalate due to the *3 multiplier. |
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Wing Update They were down to the Anaheim Ducks 2 games to 1. yes, those very same Ducks that the keen reader of this blog will remember ousted the Wings from the playoffs two seasons ago. No worries, the Wings came back strong winning the next two games in convincing fashion taking a 3-2 lead in the best of seven. Game six is tonight. Detroit has closed out an amazing 8 playoffs series in a row on the road! I expect the same tonight. (and yes Tim this is somehow Flatnz related. Red WINGS...dragons have WINGS.) |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Otf/Cp/Tp cost I'll give it a whirl, Steven.
OTF costs your (current OTF + 1)*12k. For example, if your OTF is 3 and you want to raise it to 4 it will cost you (3+1)*12, or 48k. You can also think in terms of (new OTF)*12 if you want, though the program actually uses the (current+1) calculation. GM currently has an OTF of 1, so if you want to raise OTF it will cost you: So that's OTF. For CP, the cost is (currentSL + 1)*2k. For example, if I want to raise my SL 15 player to SL 16 in a match, it will cost me: (15 + 1)*2, or 32k. To raise from SL 27 to SL 28 costs 56k. Again, you can think in terms of (newSL)*2, though the program uses the current base. As an actual example, I'll use GM's top GK, Idi Amin. Amin was SL 28 to start the season. He had 3 PU in the Origin Powerball matches for total cost of:
(28+1)*2 = 58k
To continue raising Amin's SL will cost:
There are two things to add into this mix. Let's say you only put in 7 PU (SL 35) prior to mid-season aging. At age 3, SL 30+ Amin would lose 4 SL. So he'd be SL 31 after mid-season. To use the remaining 3 CP on him would then cost the new lower amount, i.e. The other consideration is that there are only 28 free guaranteed coaching slots remaining this season. If you use more than that, they will cost you 25k for each one. As the Steve the HOB boss so deftly pointed out, if you know you are going to want to use more than the 28, then burn those extra as quickly as possible so that you get the most SL use for the money. If you use them early, you get 2 players who are better for a lot more games than if you wait until late in the season. TP to be handled in 2nd posting due to length. See above. |
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![]() Gibraltar Macaques Steven Allan |
Spendin Is anyone else finding it really hard to plan ahead for the season's spending? Maybe its jst because iv not grasped it yet but could someone explain the whole how much TP/CP and OTF costs to me one more time please Cheers |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Interesting reading, Kevin. My spend was based on using 40 CP slots and 31 TP, and deciding how much cash I wanted to finish the season with. As I wanted 40 CP slots that meant 9 overspend, and there's no point saving those, so I got all 9 done in the first 3 games. |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
$ Spent Here is what was spent on CP/TP/OTF/extra slots for the Origin Powerball session:
CUB 1230 |
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![]() Kingsridge Marauders Kevin Martin |
Coaching planning to change? With the shift in resources to 'cash only' this season, I'm wondering if we are soon going to see a shift in the way that season planning goes on. In the past years, everyone played for a high end of season cash total because you could only buy CP & TP in the pre-season. You made your purchase once and then spent those points out over the course of a season.
Now though, cash will be constantly coming in and out each session. Are we going to see teams spend down their bank balances early on with tons of extra coaching? Some teams are already pouring considerable amounts of cash into the extra coaching and training slots at 25k each, such as: Once the money is all gone, I'm wondering if we're going to see teams then spend whatever they can each week. Whatever gets earned in one session gets spent next session. Or will we still see teams stick to a budget each season and plan out their coaching and training slots so as to avoid overspending early in the year? As critical as resource management has been in this league compared to most others, I foresee the problem getting worse for those managers who have trouble balancing their own checkbooks and credit card bills. Speaking of which... Tim? Does this league offer a credit card system for the teams now? I'm looking for something in the vicinity of a 5% interest with an introductory clause like "No interest for the first three sessions!" kind of thing. Don't worry about our current credit rating. We're good for it, really. ;-) After all, it's not like we'd try to win a Cup on players bought through a credit loan and run away to the Hall of Fame where you can't come after the team coffers any more. That doesn't sound like me at all. |
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![]() Waikato River Rats Tim Given |
So give Some of us need all the help we can get! |
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![]() Hallcroft Old Boys Steve Turner |
Ramblings on CP and TP I had post all worked out and as I typed I realised I might give something away - something I have to think about over the next week in case I decide to go with it myself. Hmm. |
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Logging On I've fiddled with the loggin on function so that it now sends you to the home page. If you log on when you arrive you will be logged on for the rest of the session. Yes, it is a bit of a nuisance if you clicked on "post" and then logged in, and found yourself back at the home page, but it is the best solution I can find at the moment. |
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Various responses Thanks, Kevin. Yes, that is correct re the schedule. Why 2 blogs? Um, it makes it easier for me to keep Team PR separate from general rambling about the Red Wings. Can I set it up so that you don't have to log in every time? Yes. Am I going to do it? Have mercy on the poor beggar! I've given you over 60 hrs on new software, new online lineup creator, etc. Yes, one day I will get to creating cookies so it remembers you. Don't worry. I'm enjoying the mental exercise. I'm just a bit limited in how much I can do each week. In theory I can put about |